Go to Post Please drill responsibly! - IKE [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Competition > Rules/Strategy
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 10 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 11:36
216Robochick288's Avatar
216Robochick288 216Robochick288 is offline
Hopelessly Addicted to FIRST
AKA: Abby Wilson
FRC #0216 (RobodawGs 216/288/244)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Grandville MI
Posts: 166
216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light
2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

Alright ladies and gents, now the fun part. What is the max score that each side of the fields can come up with? Highest auton score? What will be the highest stack of the year? What scores do you expect from weeks 1 and 2 all the way to champs?


(Im looking at rules and crunching numbers as I post)
__________________
216/244/288 for life

"I want you to lose [by] the most you can!" ~Mr. Hepfer at Breakaway Champs. [Curie Match 100]

RoboDawg Alumni, 2009-2012
FIRST mentor 2010-?
FLL 2010-2012,2015-2016 FRC teams 857, 2586, 5486, and 5989 2013-?

For lack of being allowed to put them up top here are all my kids!
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 11:44
Skyehawk's Avatar
Skyehawk Skyehawk is offline
Nuts N' Bolts
AKA: Skye Leake
FRC #0876 (Thunder Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Northwood, ND
Posts: 204
Skyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to all
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

I'm going through this too, uggh. Ill post my findings as soon as I can manage.
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 11:48
216Robochick288's Avatar
216Robochick288 216Robochick288 is offline
Hopelessly Addicted to FIRST
AKA: Abby Wilson
FRC #0216 (RobodawGs 216/288/244)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Grandville MI
Posts: 166
216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

Im trying to figure out the wording on the auton. Can you move the grey bins in auton? I havnt found a rule about it, I dont think it was mentioned. Does the 20 stacked bin mean if you had 3 on the scoring spot, 2 stacked one not you would have 2x20 plus 1x6?


EDIT: Im looking but havnt found anything about it yet
__________________
216/244/288 for life

"I want you to lose [by] the most you can!" ~Mr. Hepfer at Breakaway Champs. [Curie Match 100]

RoboDawg Alumni, 2009-2012
FIRST mentor 2010-?
FLL 2010-2012,2015-2016 FRC teams 857, 2586, 5486, and 5989 2013-?

For lack of being allowed to put them up top here are all my kids!
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 11:55
ATannahill ATannahill is offline
Registered User
AKA: Alex Tannahill
no team
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Southfield, Michigan
Posts: 3,251
ATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

Quote:
Originally Posted by 216Robochick288 View Post
Im trying to figure out the wording on the auton. Can you move the grey bins in auton? I havnt found a rule about it, I dont think it was mentioned. Does the 20 stacked bin mean if you had 3 on the scoring spot, 2 stacked one not you would have 2x20 plus 1x6?


EDIT: Im looking but havnt found anything about it yet
I do not believe there is a use for gray totes in autonomous.

The three yellow totes earn 6 points if they are all in the auto zone. They earn an additional 14 points if they are stacked.
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 12:09
216Robochick288's Avatar
216Robochick288 216Robochick288 is offline
Hopelessly Addicted to FIRST
AKA: Abby Wilson
FRC #0216 (RobodawGs 216/288/244)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Grandville MI
Posts: 166
216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light216Robochick288 is a glorious beacon of light
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

There are 3 per side.... So if there were 3 seperate stacks it would be 6 points. 3 stacked would be 20? what about 2 stacked and one not?
__________________
216/244/288 for life

"I want you to lose [by] the most you can!" ~Mr. Hepfer at Breakaway Champs. [Curie Match 100]

RoboDawg Alumni, 2009-2012
FIRST mentor 2010-?
FLL 2010-2012,2015-2016 FRC teams 857, 2586, 5486, and 5989 2013-?

For lack of being allowed to put them up top here are all my kids!
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 12:12
ATannahill ATannahill is offline
Registered User
AKA: Alex Tannahill
no team
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Southfield, Michigan
Posts: 3,251
ATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

There are three yellow totes per side.

If they are all in the autonomous zone you get 6 points.

If they are in a stack (defined in the manual) you get an additional 14 points.

If two totes are stacked and one tote is not, you only get 6 points.
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 12:13
Skyehawk's Avatar
Skyehawk Skyehawk is offline
Nuts N' Bolts
AKA: Skye Leake
FRC #0876 (Thunder Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Northwood, ND
Posts: 204
Skyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to all
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

there are several ways to handle auton scoring as I read the rules now.

32 point method (A):
-4 points awarded for all active robots in auto zone (Robot Set) (4pts.)
-6 points awarded for 3 totes in auto zone (Tote set) (6pts.)
-14 additional points awarded for stack (Stacked Tote Set) (14pts.)
-8 points awarded for any three recycling containers in auto zone (Container set) (8pts.)

Total: 32pts. Max
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
32 point method (B):
-4 points awarded for all active robots in auto zone (Robot Set) (4pts.)
-6 points awarded for 3 totes in auto zone (Tote set) (0pts.) (included in Stacked Tote Set)
-14 additional points awarded for stack (Stacked Tote Set) (20pts.)
-8 points awarded for any three recycling containers in auto zone (Container set) (8pts.)

Total: 32pts. Max
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
38 point method:
-4 points awarded for all active robots in auto zone (Robot Set) (4pts.)
-6 points awarded for 3 totes in auto zone (Tote set) (6pts.)
-14 additional points awarded for stack (Stacked Tote Set) (20pts.)
-8 points awarded for any three recycling containers in auto zone (Container set) (8pts.)

Total: 38pts. Max
- it is still up to debate if you can get a Stacked tote set and a regular tote set scored at the same time.

Last edited by Skyehawk : 03-01-2015 at 12:28.
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 12:15
ATannahill ATannahill is offline
Registered User
AKA: Alex Tannahill
no team
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Southfield, Michigan
Posts: 3,251
ATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

I agree with your max, but you only get points for sets, so you need all yellow totes in the auto zone to get 6 points, you cannot get 4 points for only having two of them. The recycling containers only needs one to have a set.
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 13:06
Skyehawk's Avatar
Skyehawk Skyehawk is offline
Nuts N' Bolts
AKA: Skye Leake
FRC #0876 (Thunder Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Northwood, ND
Posts: 204
Skyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to all
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

Quote:
Originally Posted by rtfgnow View Post
I agree with your max, but you only get points for sets, so you need all yellow totes in the auto zone to get 6 points, you cannot get 4 points for only having two of them. The recycling containers only needs one to have a set.
I was inferring that all the yellow totes available at the start of the match need to be fully constrained by the auto zone in order to be considered a set.

A container set on the other hand does need to have three present in the auto zone in order to be counted (definition of container set, rule 3.1.2.1)
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 13:09
ATannahill ATannahill is offline
Registered User
AKA: Alex Tannahill
no team
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Southfield, Michigan
Posts: 3,251
ATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

The rule you quoted is right, but if you look closely they use the word any, not all when defining the container set.
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 13:26
Skyehawk's Avatar
Skyehawk Skyehawk is offline
Nuts N' Bolts
AKA: Skye Leake
FRC #0876 (Thunder Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Northwood, ND
Posts: 204
Skyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to allSkyehawk is a name known to all
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

Quote:
Originally Posted by rtfgnow View Post
The rule you quoted is right, but if you look closely they use the word any, not all when defining the container set.
The way I interpret it: there are a total of 10 recycling containers on the field: 3 in each alliance zone, 4 on the STEP. If any of those 3 are completely contained by the team's auto zone a container set is awarded.
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 13:42
MrTechCenter's Avatar
MrTechCenter MrTechCenter is offline
INTENSITY
AKA: Harsharan "Harsh" Dhaliwal
FRC #2073 (Eagleforce)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Rookie Year: 2010
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 559
MrTechCenter has a brilliant futureMrTechCenter has a brilliant futureMrTechCenter has a brilliant futureMrTechCenter has a brilliant futureMrTechCenter has a brilliant futureMrTechCenter has a brilliant futureMrTechCenter has a brilliant futureMrTechCenter has a brilliant futureMrTechCenter has a brilliant futureMrTechCenter has a brilliant futureMrTechCenter has a brilliant future
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

Is the recycle bin 4 times the lowest level it occupies or 4 times tge number of levels it occupies? We're having a heated argument about this...
__________________
2011 Sacramento Regional Finalists; 2011 MadTown Throwdown VIP Excellence in Engineering Award; 2012 Sacramento Regional Innovation in Control Award; 2012 Silicon Valley Regional Judges' Award; 2012 CalGames Autonomous Challenge Award; 2012 MadTown Throwdown Finalists; 2013 P0W3RH0U53 PWNAGE Gracios Professionalism Award; 2014 Central Valley Regional Innovation in Control; 2014 Sacramento Regional Innovation in Control; 2014 Curie Division Gracious Professionalism Award; 2015 Sacramento Regional Innovation in Control
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 13:43
BenBraun3090 BenBraun3090 is offline
Registered User
FRC #3090
Team Role: Mechanical
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Rookie Year: 2012
Location: Winona, MN
Posts: 13
BenBraun3090 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

4 times the lowest level it occupies is how i'm interpreting the rule
  #14   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 13:43
ATannahill ATannahill is offline
Registered User
AKA: Alex Tannahill
no team
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Southfield, Michigan
Posts: 3,251
ATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrTechCenter View Post
Is the recycle bin 4 times the lowest level it occupies or 4 times tge number of levels it occupies? We're having a heated argument about this...
Lowest. Page 21.
  #15   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-01-2015, 13:48
puneeth.meruva puneeth.meruva is offline
MIT Class of 2019
AKA: Puneeth Meruva
FRC #1501 (Team T.H.R.U.S.T)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Rookie Year: 2012
Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Posts: 36
puneeth.meruva will become famous soon enoughpuneeth.meruva will become famous soon enough
Re: 2015 Recycle Rush Scoring

Do you get points for having more than one pool noodle on a trash can and stacking that can?
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:19.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi