Auto Powerhouse?

[Soupp]

I believe that there will be a team that will be able to score all cans and stack all containers in auto getting 28 points everytime for their alliance

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Soupp

I believe that there will be a team that will be able to score all cans and stack all containers in auto getting 28 points everytime for their alliance

That really wouldn't be surprising. Elite teams always figure out how to maximize their autonomous performance. It's what makes them elite.

[Bongle]

Yeah, it doesn't seem _that_ difficult conceptually. It would be hard to pull off due to all the sensors required and testing time needed.

1) Get your alliance partners to drive forward to get the robot set. Maybe ask them to push their cans with them.
2) Use your high-quality stacker robot to grab the yellow bins one at a time, build a stack, then scoot to the auto zone and drop it off.

Tada!

[Whippet]

We're working on a concept that could score a CONTAINER SET on its own during auto mode. It might work, it might not. We'll have to see.

[JVN]

Originally Posted by Whippet

We're working on a concept that could score a CONTAINER SET on its own during auto mode. It might work, it might not. We'll have to see.

Is it three lasso's and a drivetrain?

That would be legal, (and useful) as Karthik pointed out in his "Karthik's Strategic Analysis" seminar which is part of Build Blitz.

I hope we have a few Texas partners this year who can lasso up some Containers.

<Insert Yee-Haw here>

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by JVN

Is it three lasso's and a drivetrain?

That would be legal, (and useful) as Karthik pointed out in his "Karthik's Strategic Analysis" seminar which is part of Build Blitz.

I hope we have a few Texas partners this year who can lasso up some Containers.

<Insert Yee-Haw here>

John, I think you and Karthik are correct IF the lassos avoid G16 (E & H) violations. I wonder if it is possible to get a Q&A response on this topic without running afoul of the GDC's position against reviewing potential designs?

[Marc S.]

Originally Posted by JVN

Is it three lasso's and a drivetrain?

That would be legal, (and useful) as Karthik pointed out in his "Karthik's Strategic Analysis" seminar which is part of Build Blitz.

I hope we have a few Texas partners this year who can lasso up some Containers.

<Insert Yee-Haw here>

Why not just lasso all 3 containers and all three totes at the same time? You wouldn't get the stack bonus but for an average team this would be an easy 14 points (lasso your alliance partners and make it 18 points).

[Whippet]

Originally Posted by JVN

Is it three lasso's and a drivetrain?

That would be legal, (and useful) as Karthik pointed out in his "Karthik's Strategic Analysis" seminar which is part of Build Blitz.

I hope we have a few Texas partners this year who can lasso up some Containers.

<Insert Yee-Haw here>

Okay, close enough. It's three lassos, a drivetrain, and a quick winch. We're looking at reliable ways to detach from the containers without tipping them over.

[Kevin Sevcik]

Originally Posted by Whippet

Okay, close enough. It's three lassos, a drivetrain, and a quick winch. We're looking at reliable ways to detach from the containers without tipping them over.

Full loop back to the robot instead of loop at the end? Hold one end, winch the other, drop the held end after you've gotten the containers, winch in the rest. It's a one trick pony, but I have difficulty believing any 3 container winch system would be reusable anyways.

[AllenGregoryIV]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

Full loop back to the robot instead of loop at the end? Hold one end, winch the other, drop the held end after you've gotten the containers, winch in the rest. It's a one trick pony, but I have difficulty believing any 3 container winch system would be reusable anyways.

Clearly teams will just go fishing for containers instead. It shouldn't be that hard to cast into the noodle hole, right?

Seriously though I'm looking forward to seeing the solutions teams find to this problem. I'm guessing we will see some clever solutions including the return of tape measures on FRC robots.

[Lil' Lavery]

Teams that have a plan of dragging containers behind them better also come up with a way to stand them back up. Generally speaking, getting 8 points in autonomous isn't worth losing a potential 90 points in tele-op.

[MrJohnston]

We are working on some concepts that would get the 20 points for stacking the three yellow totes by ourselves in autonomous - I am pretty certain that we'll get it. (I'll know in three or four weeks). Adding all three recycling bins into the mix makes things more interesting. I have some ideas on how we could do this, but developing them into something that works is a lower priority than fully developing the primary functions of our robot.

[Soupp]

The input helps tremendously we have a mock Cad design of a 28 point auto robot I guess just put it to the test

[Soupp]

Originally Posted by MrJohnston

We are working on some concepts that would get the 20 points for stacking the three yellow totes by ourselves in autonomous - I am pretty certain that we'll get it. (I'll know in three or four weeks). Adding all three recycling bins into the mix makes things more interesting. I have some ideas on how we could do this, but developing them into something that works is a lower priority than fully developing the primary functions of our robot.

The theory is there for us I feel many teams will be able to stack but getting the can as well Will be part of the frame perimeter you can extend in my opinion

[GeeTwo]

We're certainly going to attempt the tote stack auto.
For the container auto, how about three hooks with a base that stands on the floor to an inch above the container's handle, on a rope to pull it in? If you pull the cord through a pulley up high, you could then carry the hooks around at altitude on the back of your 'bot for tele-op. Unless you could manage to put the containers down in an upright position, this would make it MUCH more difficult to score the containers in tele-op; If you had such a system, you'd probably have partners asking you not to use it most matches.