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Any Good Battery Chargers?

Hey everyone, I'm looking for some good battery chargers. The ones we have from the KOPs are pretty slow. Any help?
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Re: Any Good Battery Chargers?

I'm basing this reply on the KoP charger from the past that had selectable charge rates:

Do you have it set properly for 6A and 12V? The default rate is 2A, which as you might guess is pretty slow.

It's unsafe to charge a lead acid battery quickly, which is the reason for the 6A charge rate. The charging does take some time, particularly if you have used the battery to a point close to discharge. I've experienced a minimum of 20 minutes charge time per battery per match.

Also, if you want a compact charger for three batteries, this is the most common alternative I've seen used by teams:
http://www.andymark.com/Battery-Char...-p/am-2026.htm
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Re: Any Good Battery Chargers?

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The ones we have from the KOPs are pretty slow.
Charging rates faster than 6 amps are not allowed. R20 blue box


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Re: Any Good Battery Chargers?

Seconding the Dual Pro RS3. Buying it on Andymark is more expensive than elsewhere, but it has the battery connectors preinstalled, which you may find worth the extra money.
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Seconding the Dual Pro RS3. Buying it on Andymark is more expensive than elsewhere, but it has the battery connectors preinstalled, which you may find worth the extra money.
I'll third this. We bought two of these to replace our KOP chargers and haven't looked back. We also set up a battery cart to hold everything. The nicest thing about them is the solid red/green feedback on charging & complete.
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Re: Any Good Battery Chargers?

If you have enough batteries, this charger works great for us. Running ten batteries puts us in a place where we have never had to worry about having a fully charged battery during a competition. We work our way through batteries and by the time we get to number 5 or 6, number 1 is fully charged. The initial price is a bit surprising, but you get 10 banks for just a little more than 6 with one Andymark sells. The charge is limited to 2 amps per bank, so it isn't fast by any means. But we are still running batteries that are several years old because they are properly maintained using this charger.

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...The nicest thing about them is the solid red/green feedback on charging & complete.
Our charger also has this, plus at 80% the green indicator blinks to let you know that it is nearly done.
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Re: Any Good Battery Chargers?

Thank you all for the replies!
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If you have enough batteries, this charger works great for us. Running ten batteries puts us in a place where we have never had to worry about having a fully charged battery during a competition. We work our way through batteries and by the time we get to number 5 or 6, number 1 is fully charged. The initial price is a bit surprising, but you get 10 banks for just a little more than 6 with one Andymark sells. The charge is limited to 2 amps per bank, so it isn't fast by any means. But we are still running batteries that are several years old because they are properly maintained using this charger.



Our charger also has this, plus at 80% the green indicator blinks to let you know that it is nearly done.
$507 with shipping is not too bad. I just bought a 2A/6A/10A car battery charger that can also be used for charging FRC batteries at Walmart for about $30 + tax. The one in your link is certainly much more compact than 10 of the ones I bought.
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Re: Any Good Battery Chargers?

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We have 6 mounted on our battery cart, along with 14 batteries in two rotating competition sets of 6 each plus 2 test batteries. We make our oldest 2 the test batteries.
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If you have enough batteries, this charger works great for us. Running ten batteries puts us in a place where we have never had to worry about having a fully charged battery during a competition. We work our way through batteries and by the time we get to number 5 or 6, number 1 is fully charged. The initial price is a bit surprising, but you get 10 banks for just a little more than 6 with one Andymark sells. The charge is limited to 2 amps per bank, so it isn't fast by any means. But we are still running batteries that are several years old because they are properly maintained using this charger.



Our charger also has this, plus at 80% the green indicator blinks to let you know that it is nearly done.
That looks nice but reminded me a few years back during a tournament they made an announcement that Gator clamps to charge batteries was not okay but since then I have seen it on and off. Is there anyone who has found a final verdict on it?
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That looks nice but reminded me a few years back during a tournament they made an announcement that Gator clamps to charge batteries was not okay but since then I have seen it on and off. Is there anyone who has found a final verdict on it?
See the last sentence of the blue box under R20: "Batteries should be charged in accordance with manufacturer’s specification. The battery charger output should not exceed 6 amps and they must have the corresponding Anderson connector installed. (Please see the FIRST Safety Manual for additional information.)"

Basically all this means is that you need to cut off the gator clamps and replace them with Anderson connectors.
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Basically all this means is that you need to cut off the gator clamps and replace them with Anderson connectors.
Alternatively, you can clamp the wire on a KOP battery cable and electrical tape the clamps.
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Alternatively, you can clamp the wire on a KOP battery cable and electrical tape the clamps.
That's stretching the meaning of "installed" a bit too far, in my opinion.
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That's stretching the meaning of "installed" a bit too far, in my opinion.
Perhaps. We also did that at one point when we were using a borrowed charger and could not remove the clamps.
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Throwing in my support for the 3-bank charger. Both of my teams have used them and have had no issues (of my knowledge). Very satisfied.
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