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Is anyone surprised by the scoring in week #1?

Scores are fairly low. Rarely seeing a stack of any kind with the majority of the points coming from the golden totes.
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Re: Is anyone surprised by the scoring in week #1?

yes, so far it looks like if you get the coopertition 40 each match you are going to seed very high. Not counting Dallas...

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Re: Is anyone surprised by the scoring in week #1?

Not surprised. Coop points will rule the rankings. At district champs and worlds, coop during qualifying will be expected.

I'm surprised to see no one starting with the yellow totes behind the glass. If you don't make a 3 stack in auto and load from HP, why not make it faster/easier to get that coop bonus.
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Re: Is anyone surprised by the scoring in week #1?

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I'm surprised to see no one starting with the yellow totes behind the glass. If you don't make a 3 stack in auto and load from HP, why not make it faster/easier to get that coop bonus.
Unless you have a ramp or other mechanism that lines up closely with the tote chute and catches the tote on the way down, it's as fast or faster to load from the floor. That said, I agree that unless both alliances are going to attempt tote stacks or tote sets, it doesn't make sense to put all six on the field. Another word for an un-scorable game piece is obstruction.
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Re: Is anyone surprised by the scoring in week #1?

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Unless you have a ramp or other mechanism that lines up closely with the tote chute and catches the tote on the way down, it's as fast or faster to load from the floor. That said, I agree that unless both alliances are going to attempt tote stacks or tote sets, it doesn't make sense to put all six on the field. Another word for an un-scorable game piece is obstruction.
There are other ways to make this work......a tote is a pretty darn good ramp! ....and from there stacking is easy.
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Not surprised. Coop points will rule the rankings. At district champs and worlds, coop during qualifying will be expected.

I'm surprised to see no one starting with the yellow totes behind the glass. If you don't make a 3 stack in auto and load from HP, why not make it faster/easier to get that coop bonus.
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Re: Is anyone surprised by the scoring in week #1?

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Not surprised. Coop points will rule the rankings. At district champs and worlds, coop during qualifying will be expected.

I'm surprised to see no one starting with the yellow totes behind the glass. If you don't make a 3 stack in auto and load from HP, why not make it faster/easier to get that coop bonus.
From what I've seen in Nashua this would work for a lot of teams however most are really struggling to collect from the feeder station.

Overall a large majority don't fully understand the rules as do most teams who attend Week 1 events (we've been there).

Many teams started the day putting yellow totes on the scoring platform thinking they would score. Very few know you can ask for the yellow totes not to start on the field.

Averages would increase a lot of teams went for co-op more. Teams are slowly picking up on it though.
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Overall a large majority don't fully understand the rules as do most teams who attend Week 1 events (we've been there).

Many teams started the day putting yellow totes on the scoring platform thinking they would score. Very few know you can ask for the yellow totes not to start on the field.
In the case of Palmetto, not even the referees knew you could start with yellow totes off the field <3
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In the case of Palmetto, not even the referees knew you could start with yellow totes off the field <3
Do far one team put a yellow tote on the scoring platform at northern lights. But most of all someone started in the auto zone
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Re: Is anyone surprised by the scoring in week #1?

I am shocked personally at how teams who have been established for years are struggling...The scores really are lower than I expected, but then again its only week one...One thing is for certain though, get those CO-OP totes!
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Re: Is anyone surprised by the scoring in week #1?

^I'm not. It's inertia. Teams resistant to the giant fundamental change in this year's game tried to wrestle it in the box of old games. Also, some teams just aren't ready (we never do well at our first event).
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Re: Is anyone surprised by the scoring in week #1?

I'm not much surprised by the capabilities of the robots...but I did think there would be more in the "middle of the pack", than there are in the "bottom of the pack".

It's going to be interesting to watch the season progress. I get to attend 5 regionals, starting next week.
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Re: Is anyone surprised by the scoring in week #1?

I would say that the total scores are surprising to me: I look and if a team can do the coop-stack consistently and a four stack with a bin, that's 64 pts for an average, not including partners. In every regional right now, that's a top 10 seed. I didn't expect that, but I also think it will improve later down the line.
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Re: Is anyone surprised by the scoring in week #1?

How surprised r u guys for autonomous? Like how little teams may have a good one or how good certain teams are at auto. Who's your favorite auto that has worked?
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Re: Is anyone surprised by the scoring in week #1?

The chutes right now are occasionally not even maintaining normal operation, and some teams don't understand what should and shouldn't be done, like

Breaking apart the landfill into the gap to prevent co-op is BAD if you can't get the broken up totes converted to the bumps.

Throwing noodles before the co-op conversion is stupid. Throwing noodles before the 60 second mark is almost as stupid.

These two things, along with the general team-specific issues can create a cascading effect of issues that will drive scores down.

Other issues:

Teams may not realize how silly they look when they create a 5 tote stack with no can.

Teams are committing really silly fouls. Throwing noodles after the 20 second mark is stupid, but there is another cascade effect of slightly vague rules and Q&As and blue boxes has caused a share of G6s.

Alliance partners are great at de-scoring totes another partner made.
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