Which 3 robots would form the most overpowered alliance?

[Mockapapella]

I'd love to hear what you guys think

[cmrnpizzo14]

Pending 1678, but going off of their teaser...

148, 1114, 1678

148 stacks from the feeder, 1114 stacks from the landfill, 1678 grabs all the recycle bins off of the step.

[Kevin Sevcik]

Originally Posted by cmrnpizzo14

Pending 1678, but going off of their teaser...

148, 1114, 1678

148 stacks from the feeder, 1114 stacks from the landfill, 1678 grabs all the recycle bins off of the step.

This. Or 148 + 1114 + whoever is the fastest 4 RC grabber. Just saw 1114 make 3 capped landfill stacks solo. 148 can usually manage 3-4 capped stacks from feeder. If that alliance just goes 3 for 4 on the center RCs, the other side is doomed. I think the other side is doomed even if that alliance splits the center RCs. (literally or figuratively)

Mind you, there's probably several other bots out there that will pair as well with 148. So, basically, 148 in your division at Champs is a strong argument for designing the fastest, strongest 4RC bot you can, regardless of whether or not it does anything else.

[dodar]

148, 987, "4 bin grabber"

The 28pt auto from 987/148 is still good, 148 will clear the alliance station along with the 3rd bot and 987 can clear the landfill as fast as anyone.

[Nathan Streeter]

Originally Posted by dodar

...and 987 can clear the landfill as fast as anyone.

Except 1114... they seem to be consistently doing 2-3 6-stacks with RCs from the landfill.

[Kevin Leonard]

As of right now? 1114-148-118
However this can change over the coming weeks as teams get faster and faster step-can-grabbers. #minibotRace

[Chris is me]

I'm really starting to think you need a pair of 2-bin grabbers, instead of 1 4-bin grabber. It's just an issue of speed - you can't get them fast enough (<1 sec) with a 4 grabber.

I really don't like this game mechanic.

[cmrnpizzo14]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

I'm really starting to think you need a pair of 2-bin grabbers, instead of 1 4-bin grabber. It's just an issue of speed - you can't get them fast enough (<1 sec) with a 4 grabber.

I really don't like this game mechanic.

I actually think that this adds a great dynamic to the game. Do you want to guarantee yourself 2? Would you rather try to get all 4? It's a very interesting strategy question.

[PayneTrain]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

I'm really starting to think you need a pair of 2-bin grabbers, instead of 1 4-bin grabber. It's just an issue of speed - you can't get them fast enough (<1 sec) with a 4 grabber.

I really don't like this game mechanic.

Well if/when the cans get ripped apart on Einstein to contribute a whopping zero points, the alliances can just offload their third robot, the RC grabber, and just play with two on the biggest stage in FIRST.

gg GDC

[cjl2625]

I'm thinking 1114 + 148 + ludicrous speed 2 RC bot
An auto, 148 can do a 3 tote auto (assuming they can get that working), and 1114 can try for a third RC, because I know they have some grabbing mechanism.
I saw it in the GTR practice matches, but I don't know how fast it is.

[Shrub]

From what I've seen, 3130/525/4215 averaged over 100 together. I feel like they should be taken into account.

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by Shrub

From what I've seen, 3130/525/4215 averaged over 100 together. I feel like they should be taken into account.

1114 is averaging more than 100 on their own.

[Shrub]

Welp. My bad. That's a lot more OP than what I had lined up.

[GeeTwo]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

I'm really starting to think you need a pair of 2-bin grabbers, instead of 1 4-bin grabber. It's just an issue of speed - you can't get them fast enough (<1 sec) with a 4 grabber.

Even more than speed is power and ballast/traction - if designed and executed anywhere nearly as well, two robots grabbing 2 each will overpower one grabbing 4.

[waialua359]

3476 is able to put 18 (3 stacks on the scoring platform) in a match.
They chose to do 5 each instead to complement their partner. With a third partner who focuses solely on the step to grab RC's and place them on stacks, that is a viable option for 2 of the 3 members.

I think the key question is what combination of teams can put up 200 points in a match?