Tough PNW Champs

[SciBorg Dave]

51 teams over 100 QP
8th place 140 QP
Great matches and can wars heating up
OH! what FUN

[Ichlieberoboter]

Sounds fun!
A: Who's advancing?
B: Any video links?

[michael.nord]

Originally Posted by Ichlieberoboter

Sounds fun!
A: Who's advancing?
B: Any video links?

https://www.youtube.com/user/FIRSTWAVideo/videos
http://frc-districtrankings.usfirst.org/PNW

[JakeD]

I'm most impressed by how the tight the competition is all the way through.

For reference: As I'm writing this 1114 and 2056 are ranked 2 and 3 at windsor essex. If you simply took their current Qual avg. and added it into the mix at PNW, they would be ranked 2 and 25.

[Mike Marandola]

Originally Posted by JakeD

I'm most impressed by how the tight the competition is all the way through.

For reference: As I'm writing this 1114 and 2056 are ranked 2 and 3 at windsor essex. If you simply took their current Qual avg. and added it into the mix at PNW, they would be ranked 2 and 25.

While it is interesting to compare, Qualification Average is not the best metric for comparing teams between events. I'm sure if 1114 and 2056 were at PNW their averages would be much higher.

[JakeD]

I completely agree. The thing that interests me is how there is so many teams that are comparatively very close in ranking. The largest difference between any two teams ranked next to each other (eg: rank 33 to 34, or 7 to 8) is 6.8. If you exclude the first ranked and last ranked teams the largest gap is just 3.

Compared to a 35 point difference between 1114 and 2056 right now.

Every match is shuffling the rankings as a result. Great from an alumni spectator aspect.

[dtengineering]

Although I'm not surprised by the fact that the top teams have high averages, it is impressive how many teams have high averages.

It is clear that a lot of teams picked up their game between districts competitions and district championships and that the number of very good teams in PNW has expanded drastically since moving to the district model.

I can't believe that there is a volunteer corps dedicated enough to make seven weeks of robotics competitions run like clockwork... but in just two seasons it has clearly had a positive impact on PNW team awesomeness.

If you think this level of performance is impressive, congratulate a team, but thank a volunteer!

Jason

[jojoguy10]

I agree either everything! The fact that so many teams have 100+ averages is amazing! And the fact that the top 8 teams are actually pretty close to each other. They are going to change places a couple of times I'm thinking :-)

[jojoguy10]

#PNWisBetter!

[Racer26]

I do wonder though, how much of this phenomenon is PNW being good, versus the District model giving teams more playtime to iron out the kinks, and the DCMP being an invite-only of the best teams in the region

IN's DCMP is similarly strong this week, and MSC has been routinely one of the strongest events outside of CMP and IRI for the last 6 years.

[dodar]

Originally Posted by Racer26

I do wonder though, how much of this phenomenon is PNW being good, versus the District model giving teams more playtime to iron out the kinks, and the DCMP being an invite-only of the best teams in the region

IN's DCMP is similarly strong this week, and MSC has been routinely one of the strongest events outside of CMP and IRI for the last 6 years.

Well, when you bring together teams that would most likely be Regional Winner/Finalist/Semi-Finalist, that event is inherently going to be good. You do that almost anywhere and you'd get the numbers PNW is getting.

[Racer26]

Originally Posted by dodar

Well, when you bring together teams that would most likely be Regional Winner/Finalist/Semi-Finalist, that event is inherently going to be good. You do that almost anywhere and you'd get the numbers PNW is getting.

Right. There is a reason DCMPs are strong events.

But some of it *is* an improvement in the prowess of the teams there, both, I think, as the season progresses (and they get more playtime) but ALSO I think that increase in playtime has a positive effect on future years too, where teams have learned more things that don't work and become better at designing FRC robots.

[YAK'ker]

I think the district model has really improved all of our teams, even those of us who didn't make it to regionals. Giving them a scrimmage (THANK you, FIRST FORCE!) and 2 districts to iron out bugs and make improvements with their 6-hour unbagging times is really a positive change. It really is a better teaching tool, as teams can review performance, think of ways to make the robots and drivers more effective, work on clearer strategies, and much more.

On the other hand...I am still tired from last week! I don't know how some of you manage to keep your energy going, you are nothing short of amazing to me.

Thank you to all the volunteers who helped make the PNW competitions this year the best yet!

[MikLast]

for anyone wondering just how close it is, we got about 140 points last match and raised up our point average 3 points, and went from 30th to 22nd. Talk about close matches!!

[Citrus Dad]

Unfortunately the webcast stream has been choppy. I've had problems in two locations (Davis and LA) and my sister has had problems in Seattle. I've been streaming other ones with few problems. Seems to be the data content is too high.

But a wow competition. Nice to see that the gaps can close in this game. Interesting to see what happens at Champs with the higher floor on teams.