The first human vs robot off season event - Long Island

[Sperkowsky]

Hello all,

So after reading the human vs robot thread I got to thinking. I talked to other members on my team and we decided it would be a good idea to host an off season frc event in long island NY with a game changing twist.

One alliance is Robots and the other is Humans.

We have a few rules in mind to level the playing feild like humans being forced to do coop with a 40 point penalty if they dont do and no reward for doing it. Humans are also not allowed to grab the cans off the step (for safety reasons). And other things but please give us some ideas.

Teams would consist of
the normal drive team plus every team would submit their own Humanoid. The HDs will be required to wear hard hats labeled with their team #.

Ok so you have an idea of what it is like but we need your help.

1.We have never hosted an off season event what are some important logistics to keep in mind.

2.is it ok if the pits are slightly separate from the field meaning they would have to go through 2 doors to get from pits to the field.

3. How many volunteers

4. are any of you guys interested

and biggest of all estimated cost to run

I would really like to hear what LI/NYC teams want. None of us now how this ill go as it has never happened. If any other teams want to help email

For NYC teams - Public tranportation (LIRR) is about 1 mile from the school. Its not too bad of a walk (20 minutes or so) there is a public bus but its not great and only comes every hour or so.

For teams who cant attend dont worry there will be a full hd stream setup with gopros, shoulder rigs, and a couple of high powered capture cards.

anyway we need your help but we will make this happen and we are excited.

[Louis_]

I would LOVE to do this if it wasn't so far away

[Whippet]

Originally Posted by Louis_

I would LOVE to do this if it wasn't so far away

... ditto.

[Shrub]

Can the humans wear moon shoes/high heels? I feel like they should be able to.

[Sperkowsky]

Originally Posted by Shrub

Can the humans wear moon shoes/high heels? I feel like they should be able to.

This is something we argued on. We ended with no.

One of the robots advantages is them being able to use their height. We assume people will make the tallest people on their teams humanoids so it shouldnt be an issue.

The other thing we argued on speaking of this is having fabricated peices to help like little can pullers, or small arms. We again agreed no because it would then not be a full human vs robot event.

Besides high heels seem like a bad idea when you are running around stacking bins

[Shrub]

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky

This is something we argued on. We ended with no.

One of the robots advantages is them being able to use their height. We assume people will make the tallest people on their teams humanoids so it shouldnt be an issue.

The other thing we argued on speaking of this is having fabricated peices to help like little can pullers, or small arms. We again agreed no because it would then not be a full human vs robot event.

Besides high heels seem like a bad idea when you are running around stacking bins

That does make sense. Although running in heels isn't too bad.

Best of luck with your event, though! If its able to happen I'd love to see video.

[MrTechCenter]

1.Where you're getting the field from, who your key volunteers are going to be, how are you going to fund it, secure facilities, are you going to feed people, get word out to teams, etc.

2.That's typical for an offseason competition and even at some regionals, we've had to walk across an entire school campus before, it's not that big a deal.

3. Once you hit your key volunteers (refs, FTA, scorekeepers, emcee/game announcers, pit admin) and enough people for field reset the rest just depends on how big the event is going to be and how you plan on running things.

4. I would be if I didn't live on the opposite coast.

You can put on an offseason for pretty cheap.

I've been one of the leads on the planning committee for our offseason event for the two years we've held it. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

[Sperkowsky]

Originally Posted by MrTechCenter

1.Where you're getting the field from, who your key volunteers are going to be, how are you going to fund it, secure facilities, are you going to feed people, get word out to teams, etc.

2.That's typical for an offseason competition and even at some regionals, we've had to walk across an entire school campus before, it's not that big a deal.

3. Once you hit your key volunteers (refs, FTA, scorekeepers, emcee/game announcers, pit admin) and enough people for field reset the rest just depends on how big the event is going to be and how you plan on running things.

4. I would be if I didn't live on the opposite coast.

You can put on an offseason for pretty cheap.

I've been one of the leads on the planning committee for our offseason event for the two years we've held it. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

Thanks for the response.

We think the field will most likely come from Andymark as it seems like the easiest way to go. for volunteers we will mostly have parent help. for things like refs, fta, and other roles you have to be trained for we will have to get in contact with those people in our area. I know there are people quite close that are trained we just need to get them involved.

Thats good we werent sure. The HHH competition has everything in one gym. Its still well run but a little tight. The nice thing about our school layout is that both cafeterias and both gyms are all in a row. We would most likely have the small cafe as the meal area. The large cafe as the pits. The gym for the event, and the small gym for a practice field plus volunteer space.

we will be measuring the areas to figure out how many teams we can fit pit wise in our large cafe. We are going to start with 7 by 7 pits so teams still have enough room to work on their robots. The gym can fit plenty of people and with small enough pits are cafe can also fit a lot but we have to limit it so we dont get overwhelmed.

We will most likely ask you some questions later about your experience. Ive been talking to my friend from gymnastics who is on 3624 and we will probably get in contact with their whole team later on as they have been doing it for quite a few years.

thanks again

[RomeroFRC5012]

Why does everything fun have to be so far away?

[Rosiebotboss]

How large is your budget? Who's your sponsor?

From AM website-a field is a minimum of $5000 including an FTA (look it up) with zero game pieces.

Full A/V is another $5-7,000 with webcasting.

Is the venue going to charge you rent? Do you have to hire security? (Many schools require police / EMTs to be on site)

How are you going to power the pits? If you have to rent a generator, that's another $1200. (Including Union Electricians fees to run the cable.)

That is just some of the details you need to consider.

[planetbrilliant]

I would totally try to attend with my team if it wasn't so far, good luck! Please post video of this when it happens!

[Basel A]

This sounds fun and all, but it sounds more like it would be a fun component of a regular offseason competition, in the same way that an offseason would have mentor matches.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Basel A

This sounds fun and all, but it sounds more like it would be a fun component of a regular offseason competition, in the same way that an offseason would have mentor matches.

This.

Make these an exhibition match during part of a normal off-season. Don't make the whole off-season humans vs. robots.

[WillNess]

Originally Posted by Basel A

offseason would have mentor matches.

Which offseason event is this?

[mastachyra]

After autonomous, if there are still cans on the step, would it still be unsafe for humans to grab them? I don't think you should assume the cans will be gone in auto.

Also, would humans teams get to play against other human teams?