[FRC Blog] International Teams -- Game Piece Option

[Hallry]

Posted on the FRC Blog, http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...e-piece-option

International Teams -- Game Piece Option

Blog Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - 16:39

Today’s blog post was written by Daniela Dimova, International Coordinator.

In previous years, some of our international teams have expressed concerns that the shipping of extra game pieces they receive from FIRST Choice is taking a significant amount of time. On average, it takes 3-4 weeks for the pieces to arrive in their home countries. In an effort to alleviate some of the challenges that the non-US teams face, we are going to offer an Opt-in system to all international teams. This system will allow them to receive an additional Kickoff Kit’s worth of game pieces at either their Kickoff or as part of their Mysite shipment. As a tradeoff for the teams who Opt-in, they will have their round one FIRST Choice credits reduced by 30%.

The Opt-in window will be open, for non-US teams only and between 12:00 EST on Thursday, October 29 and 12:00 EST on Thursday, November 12.

In order to opt-in:

• Log into your TIMS account
• Click on Game Piece Option area on the right of your screen
• Select “Yes” or “No” from the dropdown menu

Please note that the default option is to not receive an extra set of game pieces. If you do not want an extra set of game pieces, you can either select no from the dropdown or do nothing. By selecting yes from the drop down menu, your team is opting in to receive an extra set of game pieces at kickoff. Changes may not be made after the opt-in window closes.

We hope that this option will reduce some of the obstacles that non-US teams face. As always we look forward to feedback about the implementation.

[JVN]

Please give this to US teams also. Please. Please please please.
We will send cheesecake.

[thatprogrammer]

Originally Posted by JVN

Please give this to US teams also. Please. Please please please.
We will send cheesecake.

I second this, especially if the game pieces are easy to break...

[AdamHeard]

We'd also love this!

[Travis Hoffman]

This is their payback for NASA grant U.S. exclusivity.

[Phoenix Spud]

Quite simply, thank you! This will be a huge help to so many international teams.

[bduddy]

I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned the implication, that is, that it doesn't appear that the game piece this year will be something universally available such as a soccer ball.

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by bduddy

I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned the implication, that is, that it doesn't appear that the game piece this year will be something universally available such as a soccer ball.

Not necessarily.

Even when the game piece is "universally available" such as 2010, many teams were unable to obtain the specific ball (which had a unique texture which greatly affected gripping it).

[Darkseer54]

Originally Posted by bduddy

I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned the implication, that is, that it doesn't appear that the game piece this year will be something universally available such as a soccer ball.

Totes were fairly common, but you needed to have the correct size tote in order to properly prototype and practice the game. Same thing would probably go for say a soccer ball or football etc.

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by bduddy

I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned the implication, that is, that it doesn't appear that the game piece this year will be something universally available such as a soccer ball.

Almost every year I can think of the game piece wasn't universally available. It's not like there's only 1 brand and model of soccer ball, or basketball, or frisbee... and depending on mechanism and goal, even the slightest difference in material, size, shape, or weight could have a huge impact. Having the exact brand and model of the game piece really is important.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

Having the exact brand and model of the game piece really is important.

And batch (2012).

The one year it wasn't all THAT important was 2009--but part of that was because teams did some reverse engineering on the limited supply available and came up with their own knockoffs that worked all right (but weren't the real thing).


That being said, I do think that this is something that should be expanded, IF this test works as planned. I don't trust that gamepiece X will be a common, everyday, "found in your local WalMart" item regardless of what anybody says (again, 2009 memories).

[Madison]

I worry that they're offering this only to international teams in part because they won't have enough available to make it available to all teams.

[waialua359]

Originally Posted by Madison

I worry that they're offering this only to international teams in part because they won't have enough available to make it available to all teams.

My initial thoughts also....hope its not true.

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by Madison

I worry that they're offering this only to international teams in part because they won't have enough available to make it available to all teams.

Or, maybe the gamepiece is something much less common outside the US.

Like footballs.

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by Madison

I worry that they're offering this only to international teams in part because they won't have enough available to make it available to all teams.

At least until Jan 9 I'm willing to believe what FIRST said in the blog post - the reason for doing this is only because of the time delay in shipping FIRST Choice items. If US teams can get the game piece in ~1 week through FIRST Choice, then that isn't all that bad. Waiting over half the build season, on the other hand, is horrible, especially if there's no other way to get it except through international shipping.