Go to Post Just get a nice big box of maraschino cherries and a cup of coffee and settle yourself down for a fun read. You'll be amazed at the ideas that you are going to have pop into your head. - JaneYoung [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Technical > Motors
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-02-2016, 00:09
shaneo's Avatar
shaneo shaneo is offline
Registered User
FRC #5607
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 2
shaneo is an unknown quantity at this point
What makes a "CIM" motor a "CIM" motor?

Probably a n00b question, but I'm a n00b, so...

I see there are limits on the number of CIM motors you can use vs. non-CIM motors, automotive motors, mini-CIMs, etc.

But what makes a "CIM" motor a "CIM" motor? What does "CIM" stand for?

Thanks in advance -

Shane O.
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-02-2016, 00:10
MrForbes's Avatar
MrForbes MrForbes is offline
Registered User
AKA: Jim
FRC #1726 (N.E.R.D.S.)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Sierra Vista AZ
Posts: 5,989
MrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What makes a "CIM" motor a "CIM" motor?

China Industrial Motor

or something....

What makes it a CIM is that it's big. Oh and it's the most powerful motor we are allowed to use.
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-02-2016, 00:11
Basel A's Avatar
Basel A Basel A is offline
It's pronounced Basl with a soft s
AKA: @BaselThe2nd
FRC #3322 (Eagle Imperium)
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Posts: 1,929
Basel A has a reputation beyond reputeBasel A has a reputation beyond reputeBasel A has a reputation beyond reputeBasel A has a reputation beyond reputeBasel A has a reputation beyond reputeBasel A has a reputation beyond reputeBasel A has a reputation beyond reputeBasel A has a reputation beyond reputeBasel A has a reputation beyond reputeBasel A has a reputation beyond reputeBasel A has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What makes a "CIM" motor a "CIM" motor?

There's a thread about the name here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=110767
__________________
Team 2337 | 2009-2012 | Student
Team 3322 | 2014-Present | College Student
“Be excellent in everything you do and the results will just happen.”
-Paul Copioli
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-02-2016, 00:57
Christopher149 Christopher149 is offline
Registered User
FRC #0857 (Superior Roboworks) FTC 10723 (SnowBots)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Houghton, MI
Posts: 1,100
Christopher149 has a reputation beyond reputeChristopher149 has a reputation beyond reputeChristopher149 has a reputation beyond reputeChristopher149 has a reputation beyond reputeChristopher149 has a reputation beyond reputeChristopher149 has a reputation beyond reputeChristopher149 has a reputation beyond reputeChristopher149 has a reputation beyond reputeChristopher149 has a reputation beyond reputeChristopher149 has a reputation beyond reputeChristopher149 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What makes a "CIM" motor a "CIM" motor?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrForbes View Post
What makes it a CIM is that it's big. Oh and it's the most powerful motor we are allowed to use.
The 775pro would like a word with you.
__________________
2015-present: FTC 10723 mentor
2012-present: 857 mentor
2008-2011: 857 student

2015: Industrial Design, Excellence in Engineering, District Finalist, Archimedes Division (#6 alliance captain)
2014: Judges Award, District Engineering Inspiration, District Finalist, Galileo Division

  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-02-2016, 01:02
z_beeblebrox's Avatar
z_beeblebrox z_beeblebrox is offline
Custom User Title
AKA: Cal
FRC #4183 (Bit Buckets)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Rookie Year: 2012
Location: Cambridge MA
Posts: 811
z_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What makes a "CIM" motor a "CIM" motor?

We all need to fix our RAS Syndrome.
__________________
2012 Utah Regional Rookie All-Star
2013 Phoenix Regional Judge's Award for "design process and prototyping"
2014 Hub City Regional Quality Award, Arizona Regional Excellence in Engineering Award
2015 Arizona East Regional Creativity Award, Winner
2016 Arizona North Regional Finalist, Arizona West Excellence in Engineering Award, Finalist
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-02-2016, 01:31
Jamie Kalb Jamie Kalb is offline
Registered User
no team
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Mountain View, C.A.
Posts: 272
Jamie Kalb is a name known to allJamie Kalb is a name known to allJamie Kalb is a name known to allJamie Kalb is a name known to allJamie Kalb is a name known to allJamie Kalb is a name known to all
Re: What makes a "CIM" motor a "CIM" motor?

Quote:
Originally Posted by z_beeblebrox View Post
We all need to fix our RAS Syndrome.
It really is rampant in the FRC competition
__________________
Team 3129 Green MacHHHHine Founder, Captain (2009-10), Alumnus, and Mentor (2011-14)

2011-13 VEX World Championship...
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-02-2016, 01:33
GeeTwo's Avatar
GeeTwo GeeTwo is offline
Technical Director
AKA: Gus Michel II
FRC #3946 (Tiger Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Rookie Year: 2013
Location: Slidell, LA
Posts: 3,606
GeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What makes a "CIM" motor a "CIM" motor?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrForbes View Post
What makes it a CIM is that it's big. Oh and it's the most powerful motor we are allowed to use.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher149 View Post
It may not be the most powerful anymore, but it can still put out the highest torque and can stand generating that torque for the longest time before releasing the magic smoke.

As Mr. Forbes noted, it's big. (Not the biggest motor ever used in FRC, but the biggest currently used). There are three sealed black motors (with metal end caps) used in FRC. These motors operate well at low speeds for a pretty good amount of time before overheating.
  • CIM, which is 2.5" in diameter and about 4.5" long excluding shaft
  • Mini-CIM, which is 2.5" in diameter (same mounting) and about 3.5" long excluding shaft
  • BAG wich is about 1.6" in diameter and 2.8" long excluding shaft
Other than the automotive motors, most of the other motors used in FRC are air-cooled, and run much faster (but with lower torque) than their sealed bretheren. Because they are lighter and air-cooled, they do not operate well at low speed for a significant amount of time.

CIMs and the other sealed motors are more likely to be used in slower "heavier" mechanisms such as a drive system or lift arm, whereas fan-cooled motors are more likely to find use powering shooter wheels, fans, high-speed intakes, and such.

I thought CIM stood for Chiaphua Industrial Motor from my browsing.

Edit:
Quote:
Originally Posted by z_beeblebrox View Post
We all need to fix our RAS Syndrome.
It's not just acronyms. Any word which takes on a second meaning is subject to this. Did you know that "The La Brea Tar Pits" means "The The Tar Tar Pits?" Going the other way, few are brave enough to use the name "Hawaii" to refer to "The Big Island," and they are usually misunderstood.
__________________

If you can't find time to do it right, how are you going to find time to do it over?
If you don't pass it on, it never happened.
Robots are great, but inspiration is the reason we're here.
Friends don't let friends use master links.

Last edited by GeeTwo : 11-02-2016 at 01:42.
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-02-2016, 01:38
Knufire Knufire is offline
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
no team
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Rookie Year: 2010
Location: Terre Haute, IN
Posts: 740
Knufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What makes a "CIM" motor a "CIM" motor?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GeeTwo View Post
I thought CIM stood for Chiaphua Industrial Motor from my browsing.
CCL Industrial Motor, where CCL stands for Chiaphua Components Limited.

http://www.cclmotors.com/website/eng/about?pid=5
http://www.cclmotors.com/website/eng...ct-list?cat=10
__________________
Team 469: 2010 - 2013
Team 5188: 2014 - 2016
NAR (VEX U): 2014 - Present
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-02-2016, 00:12
Knufire Knufire is offline
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
no team
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Rookie Year: 2010
Location: Terre Haute, IN
Posts: 740
Knufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond reputeKnufire has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What makes a "CIM" motor a "CIM" motor?

CCL Industrial Motor
__________________
Team 469: 2010 - 2013
Team 5188: 2014 - 2016
NAR (VEX U): 2014 - Present
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:35.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi