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[FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
From http://www.firstinspires.org/robotic...ntation-reboot posted Dec 1 2016
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Re: [FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
I'm not sure what to think about this....
... no wait, I do. This is a *bad* idea. I think STIMS is great in comparison! I admit, there's some redundancy in the Admin (and to a lesser extent, Game) manual. There's some things that can be pulled (like "About FIRST"), but I, in no way shape or form, want to hunt around the FIRST website... somewhere... to get information on various awards, policies and the like, that was previously in the Admin manual and had a clear update-and-announce policy (Team Updates). Random "resources" and web pages on the FIRST site (nevermind finding them) can be changed and without notice, and frankly, it concerns me greatly. Finally, we lose the single-point-of-authority the information in the Admin manual had. We could print it, bring it with us, and it was dated at the bottom of every page. If we needed to reference it at competition, it was there, and we knew it was current. We didn't have to "build" our own. I really hope FIRST considers reversing this decision. --- Opinions are my own, and may not necessarily reflect my team. |
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Re: [FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
I am NOT clicking on the 2017 Game Manual link...
Last edited by Mark McLeod : 01-12-2016 at 15:24. |
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Re: [FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
Naw, it's totally legit. Surprisingly, it's NOT a song by a man named Rick Astley.
It's far, far worse. |
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Re: [FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
I sent the following into FRCTeamAdvocate@usfirst.org :
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Re: [FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
I clicked the link...
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Re: [FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
Clicked it expecting the encrypted game manual was out... and was disappointed.
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Re: [FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
Something funny to note is that this post was originally listed under the Resource Library for some reason and they just moved it to the blog. Old link is dead.
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Re: [FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
Thanks - I fixed the links in the original post.
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Re: [FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
I'm reminded of the pdf export function on the Q&A. If the goal is simply to provide a centralized website for the important/useful evergreen admin material rather than a central pdf, then adding a similar export function might relieve a lot of these access worries.
Still color me a skeptic, though. It's a worthy idea, but the number of people who've reached out in recent years to say "I can't find it on the website" is too worrisome for me. And these aren't CD or even deeply involved folks; I've watched the website drive people away across all kinds of associations. I'd very much rather they fix the UI first and then migrate more content to it. |
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Re: [FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
I would be extremely interested in this. My team has no access to internet where we work, so we rely on paper copies of the manuals. I don't mind if they try and consolidate information, as long as it's easily accessible and it's easy to print off this information for use at shop or at competitions.
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Re: [FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
Luckily, nobody has any trouble navigating or finding what they need from the FIRST website, so all of this information will be just as accessible and easy to find as before.
. . . But seriously, does FIRST think the website is easy enough to navigate that nobody will have trouble finding what they are looking for? What about the people who don't know exactly what they are looking for, who learn from reading the admin manual? This is going to get messy. |
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Re: [FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
Since the resources are "easily available" from the dashboard, and the awards sections seem to be floating near the top, they should be rather easy to find and utilize.
Of course that's for people logged in to the wobsite with knowledge of the resources area. It's not entirely intuitive. And I'm not sure how to access simply starting from the wobsite home page. |
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Re: [FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
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Re: [FRC Blog] Documentation: Reboot
As everyone knows, a wobsite is a place on the world wide wob, accessed by clacking on a lunk.
I've never heard tell of a blag, though. ![]() |
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