Go to Post We can't quite define FIRST according to past standards and traditions, because it is shaping the future and does not conform to today's model of sports. - JaneYoung [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-01-2017, 14:19
Team2909 Team2909 is offline
Registered User
FRC #2909
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Rochester Indiana
Posts: 5
Team2909 is an unknown quantity at this point
Exclamation What kind of encoders should I get?

We have a toughbox micro and 6 inch mechanum wheels. What type of encoders do we need.
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-01-2017, 16:44
Ether's Avatar
Ether Ether is offline
systems engineer (retired)
no team
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Rookie Year: 1969
Location: US
Posts: 8,101
Ether has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What kind of encoders should I get?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Team2909 View Post
We have a toughbox micro and 6 inch mechanum wheels.
Welcome to Chief Delphi !

http://youtu.be/LlSoEfAW47I?t=3m33s


Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-01-2017, 16:59
asid61's Avatar
asid61 asid61 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Anand Rajamani
FRC #0115 (MVRT)
Team Role: Mechanical
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Rookie Year: 2013
Location: Cupertino, CA
Posts: 2,224
asid61 has a reputation beyond reputeasid61 has a reputation beyond reputeasid61 has a reputation beyond reputeasid61 has a reputation beyond reputeasid61 has a reputation beyond reputeasid61 has a reputation beyond reputeasid61 has a reputation beyond reputeasid61 has a reputation beyond reputeasid61 has a reputation beyond reputeasid61 has a reputation beyond reputeasid61 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What kind of encoders should I get?

Incremental.
What are you trying to do? Theoretically you don't need encoders at all.
__________________
<Now accepting CAD requests and commissions>

Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 12-01-2017, 10:03
Team2909 Team2909 is offline
Registered User
FRC #2909
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Rochester Indiana
Posts: 5
Team2909 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: What kind of encoders should I get?

We would like to put encoders on for autonomous. Originally had tank tracks, but we are switching to mechanum. Figured it would be easier and more reliable to use encoders.
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 12-01-2017, 10:12
nickbrickmaster's Avatar
nickbrickmaster nickbrickmaster is online now
Not Allowed Near Power Tools
AKA: Nick Schatz
FRC #3184 (Blaze Robotics)
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Rookie Year: 2014
Location: Eagan MN
Posts: 162
nickbrickmaster is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: What kind of encoders should I get?

Quadrature encoders are the standard for drivetrains.

Andymark has USDigital E4T encoders, which work well with their gearboxes. I have had bad experiences with their connectors though. They also sell SRX magnetic encoders, which we got this season. They require additional machining, but seem better in most other ways. Many teams also use Grayhill shaft encoders (you can find them on Digikey), but you will have to find someone else to talk about these.
__________________
I have approximate knowledge of many things.

FRC 3184: 2014-, FTC 10648: 2015-
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 12-01-2017, 10:14
Peyton Yeung's Avatar
Peyton Yeung Peyton Yeung is offline
45 Alumni
AKA: Peyton Yeung
FRC #0461 (Westside Boiler Invasion)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Kokomo, IN
Posts: 827
Peyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What kind of encoders should I get?

I've had success with the amt encoders from FIRST Choice.
__________________
461 Westside Boiler Invasion
2016 Tippy Quarter finalist, Warren Finalist, IN State Semi Finalist,B^3 Double Finalist
2015 Indy Semi finalist, Purdue Quarter Finalist, IN State Quarter Finalist, CORI QF, R2OC Finalist, RAGE Winner
2014 Boilermaker Semi finalist, Crossroads Quarter Finalist, & CAGE Quarter Finalist
45 Technokats
2013 Boilermaker Quarter finalist
2012 CAGE Semi finalist & Queen City Champion
2011 CAGE Quarter finalist & Midwest Semi finalist
2010 CAGE Quarter finalist, Boilermaker Champion, & Washington DC Quarter Finalist
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 12-01-2017, 10:29
Ether's Avatar
Ether Ether is offline
systems engineer (retired)
no team
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Rookie Year: 1969
Location: US
Posts: 8,101
Ether has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What kind of encoders should I get?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Team2909 View Post
We would like to put encoders on for autonomous. Originally had tank tracks, but we are switching to mechanum (FTFY). Figured it would be easier and more reliable to use encoders.
Following up on asid61's question: What are you trying to do?

e.g. Do you plan to use the encoders just to close the loop on wheel speed?

or are you going to try to use the 4 encoder velocity readings to compute vehicle speed and yaw rate?

or are you going to try to use the 4 encoder position readings to compute vehicle position and angle?

or something else?


Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 12-01-2017, 11:45
BDRessler's Avatar
BDRessler BDRessler is offline
Programming Lead
FRC #1828 (BoxerBots)
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Vail
Posts: 7
BDRessler has a spectacular aura aboutBDRessler has a spectacular aura about
Re: What kind of encoders should I get?

we have had success with these in the past, but be careful with mecanum wheels, as they tend to sacrifice accuracy with encoders due to slippage. This year, we are looking into using an optical mouse for our linear odometry and an imu for rotational.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 15:43.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi