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Team Update 6

https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.n...amUpdate06.pdf

Summary:
  • Stop posting duplicate questions!
  • There's only one string of LEDs in the steam pipe.
  • It's week three, and it looks like FIRST is STILL refining field designs.
  • Shenzen and Champ practice fields will not be official FIRST fields (presumably AM fields)
  • Despite being in the rules already, there's now another place that says there can be only two people in the airship.
  • While turning a gear to score it, if you leave it idle for 10 seconds before the three rotations, it resets to zero. (this also affected Q82, and has been updated)
  • Touchpads are likely to break at 75 lbs of force.
  • You can now legally grab your own rope.
  • Apparently the touchpad dome likes to come unseated, and is no longer a foul if you do so.
  • You can now use protrusions that can pose hazards to team supplied ropes.
  • More rope rules: Now knitted, crocheted, intertwined ropes are legal. I can't wait for my knitted industrial rope!
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Re: Team Update 6

CROCHETED VELCRO CONFIRMED LEGAL
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Re: Team Update 6

Another team update, another change in the definition of a rope
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Re: Team Update 6

I came up with Q82, hoping that one could defer finishing a lower numbered rotor and do most of the rotations on higher numbered rotors with non-preinstalled gears, so that when more gears arrived, you could 'finish off' more than one rotor without having to turn all of them three times. In other words, before starting #2, put gears on #3 and give it 2+ rotations, then move the gears back to #2 to give it three rotations. When the last needed gear for #3 arrives late in the match, only a 1 (or less) rotations are needed there. So much for that idea, unless you can squeeze it in the 10 second window.

What if I want to macrame a rope?

http://www.redheart.com/articles/mac...erns-and-knots
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More rope rules: Now knitted, crocheted, intertwined ropes are legal. I can't wait for my knitted industrial rope!
Calling all grandmas! We need 3000 crocheted ropes for team's!
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Re: Team Update 6

We have our rope picked out.
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We have our rope picked out.
This is just getting silly.
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Re: Team Update 6

"If a GEAR set corresponding to the next sequential unengaged ROTOR remains idle for more than ten (10) seconds, the rotation count resets to zero (0)."

Does this pretty much mean you have to go in order now? Can't see why you would go out of order anyways but I think this pretty much says go in order it you have to start over.
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"If a GEAR set corresponding to the next sequential unengaged ROTOR remains idle for more than ten (10) seconds, the rotation count resets to zero (0)."

Does this pretty much mean you have to go in order now? Can't see why you would go out of order anyways but I think this pretty much says go in order it you have to start over.
You've always had to go in order.
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You've always had to go in order.
What rule is that?
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Once a ROTOR is started, it remains turning for the duration of the MATCH. ROTORS only start if GEARS are installed in ROTOR order: 1, 2, 3, and then 4.
Just below Figure 3-12.
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Just below Figure 3-12.
Yes. It would be nice if people remembered to quote the rules when they make definitive statements about those rules.
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Yes. It would be nice if people remembered to quote the rules when they make definitive statements about those rules.
It would also be nice if people read the rules thoroughly. Its not up to me to hand feed them. I gave them a reason to go look at the rules again, so they could learn.
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Re: Team Update 6

I'll admit: in my numerous re-readings of the 2017 manual, I missed the caption below a figure that explicitly states the rotors must be engaged in order, as did a few others in this thread.
And we're the 'good ones'.

Aside from the occasional "do we have a weight requirement this year??" silliness, I'll refrain from ordering people to .
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Yes. It would be nice if people remembered to quote the rules when they make definitive statements about those rules.
Sure. It was correct in this case so we could have just left it at that. If it was incorrect, plenty of people would have corrected it. Such is CD.
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