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"Velcro" Ropes

So after much discussion the rules have somewhat changed in a team update regarding material and what can be on ropes. It seems as though the theory behind "velcro" or velcro-like materials are not illegal, however what they are comprised of and how you attach them to your rope can be. From reading the rules it seems like you can just sew on your velcro onto something like a ratchet strap. That being said, the rules refer to manufacturer's implemented glue or material that is not woven being illegal.
If anyone can help clarify this at all or direct me to a chain store where we can buy some legal velcro we can sew on that would be great!
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Re: "Velcro" Ropes

Any suggestions here would be guesses, as it is up to the inspector and LRI at your event to determine, and the Q&A will not take this question far enough to give a positive answer.

As a simple alternative, many ropes have the fibers loose enough that Velcro hooks on the drum will snag them just fine.
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Re: "Velcro" Ropes

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Any suggestions here would be guesses, as it is up to the inspector and LRI at your event to determine, and the Q&A will not take this question far enough to give a positive answer.

As a simple alternative, many ropes have the fibers loose enough that Velcro hooks on the drum will snag them just fine.
No need to guess and then suggest a confining design. Simply point to the Q&A. Most LRI's will be well-versed in what is legal and illegal. Compliance with I04 is pretty easy - the inspection checklist is literally right there in that rule.


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A derived conclusion is that if you want to attach the Velcro to a stronger rope core, sew it in using a non-metalic thread. Just make sure the total diameter never exceeds 1", and otherwise complies with I04. An inspector may want any literature & other information you have about the hook-and-loop material, so be sure to bring that.

As far as suppliers - use the search at the top of the forums. I've seen a few "threads" with links to suppliers of hook-and-loop material that doesn't have adhesive.
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Re: "Velcro" Ropes

From I04:
"D. consist entirely of (except for dye or adhesive applied by the VENDOR as part of the normal manufacturing process for a COTS item and no longer tacky, e.g. a “binder coat”) flexible, non-metallic fibers sewn, twisted, tied, woven, knitted, crocheted, intertwined, or braided together except for the last 4 in. (~10 cm) of any cut end (E) which may be whipped (with material that is flexible and non-metallic) or fused only to prevent fraying."

From Velcro website: first paragraph is relevant re: "binder coat"
https://www.velcro.com/business/prod...hesive-options
Reading this paragraph makes it clear that "binder coat" is not the same as "adhesive backing". A "binder coat" is common to both sew-on and adhesive-backed woven Velcro.

The words "no longer tacky" only have meaning if interpreted to eliminate adhesive-backed woven Velcro from being part of a team supplied rope.

My .02, if the Velcro has an adhesive backing, i.e. is sticky, do not use it. Get yourself some sew-on Velcro and put your sewing, twisting, tying, weaving, knitting, crocheting, intertwining or braiding skills to work...
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Re: "Velcro" Ropes

Originally we were under the impression that we had to make the entire rope uniform. So we made this:

https://goo.gl/photos/vj5DGpLYBBKBhk5UA



After reading the links posted above, I think we can just add 12 inches of velcro to a desired area of the rope and call it a day... Would you guys say it is safe to sew velcro to only a portion of the strap/ section of rope? I feel like we are beating the dead horse here.. but looking for some input from the community.
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