Do you think FIRST would change the game if...

[Elgin Clock]

Do you think FIRST would change the game at this point in the season if someone posted a guess for the game that was "dead on accurate"?

I mean, the guesses are just that.. guesses. But do you think they would keep it the way it is, or try and change it for the simple reason of being a total surprise?

Also, what would you do if you were FIRST and that happened??

[JVN]

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock

Do you think FIRST would change the game at this point in the season if someone posted a guess for the game that was "dead on accurate"?

I mean, the guesses are just that.. guesses. But do you think they would keep it the way it is, or try and change it for the simple reason of being a total surprise?

Also, what would you do if you were FIRST and that happened??

Of course not!

One reason being... until the curtain goes up, no one KNOWS the guess is accurate. I mean... it's not like teams are out there designing robots to play your "drum game". Are there? So no one has a "head-start", and there is no problem.

Another reason being... Do you have any idea how much time/effort goes into developing a FIRST game? I'm pretty sure they don't just have "extra games" lying around for such an emergency. Evem if hypothetically they could create a new game in a much shortened period of time, not only would they have to rewrite the new manual, but they'd have to rebuild/reorder the new playing fields (6+ of them), not to mention the large amounts of $$$ that would be "wasted" on the pre-developed, now obsolete game.

No way... no how.

John

[Wetzel]

Originally Posted by JVN

Of course not!

One reason being... until the curtain goes up, no one KNOWS the guess is accurate. I mean... it's not like teams are out there designing robots to play your "drum game". Are there? So no one has a "head-start", and there is no problem.

John

Yes I have. I spend alot of time running around town doing deliverys at work, and gives me ample time to think.


Wetzel
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I don't need a cell phone to be distracted.

[Tytus Gerrish]

i know some individuals who think they've figured it out. they kept theyre mouths prety much shut from me, as long as they dont go spreading it around i guess things will be ok

[Amanda Morrison]

Considering the planning and effort that goes into each game, I highly doubt it.

At the very most, you'd get bragging rights (I guessed the game before the Kickoff!), but I don't see much other reciprocation happening.

[dlavery]

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock

Do you think FIRST would change the game at this point in the season if someone posted a guess for the game that was "dead on accurate"?

We already did tha...

Oh, wait, never mind. Forget I said anything. For any further information, go ask Lil' Lavery.

-dave


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29 days to go!!!

[DanL]

Originally Posted by dlavery

We already did tha...

Oh, wait, never mind. Forget I said anything. For any further information, go ask Lil' Lavery.

In last year's make-the-new-game-thread, I seem to remember someone's idea - Wacky Warehouse or something to that extent - being reeeaaaallly similar to Stack Attack.......

[Joe Matt]

Originally Posted by SuperDanman

In last year's make-the-new-game-thread, I seem to remember someone's idea - Wacky Warehouse or something to that extent - being reeeaaaallly similar to Stack Attack.......

That's because Dave wanted ideas. I think we should do a CD thread again like last year, I don't like this whole 'submit ideas to FIRST' thing since we can't build upon other's ideas.

As for the topic question, no, I don't think FIRST will change the game, unless it was WAY early in the season. I'm talking July/August. Creating a new game takes LOADS of effort and tons of fine tweeking.

[Rich Wong]

......part of the fun of FIRST is the guessing!

It's like the monkey on the piano, sooner or later he'll come up with the first 4 notes of Bach's Ol' to Joy"

[Yan Wang]

If I were the designer of the game, I woudn't care if someone guessed the game 'dead on accurate'. What's the probability of such a feat? If anything, I'd send the person who guessed correctly an email congratulating his/her good luck. And then immediately ask them to give me 5 lottery numbers.

[KenWittlief]

Originally Posted by Rich Wong

......part of the fun of FIRST is the guessing!

It's like the monkey on the piano, sooner or later he'll come up with the first 4 notes of Bach's Ol' to Joy"

yeah but after the first ten minutes of listening to a monkey bang on a piano, everyone would leave, so by the time he DID play Bach there would be nobody there to hear it.

[KenWittlief]

this idea that someone is going to guess the game, and spoil the efforts of FIRST

is similar to engineering

anyone can come up with an idea, lets say for a flying machine that uses no power

but unless you:

1. are certain that your idea is correct (real) and
2. you can explain to others why its correct and
3. you can convince others that your idea is correct

then all you are doing is guessing - unless you could convice a good percentage of the 950 teams that you have some proof of what the new game is,

and they take you seriously

then why would FIRST care?

even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

[IMDWalrus]

Originally Posted by JosephM

That's because Dave wanted ideas. I think we should do a CD thread again like last year, I don't like this whole 'submit ideas to FIRST' thing since we can't build upon other's ideas.

If I were choosing, I'd do both private submissions AND a CD thread, and then consult both. But that's just me.

[dlavery]

Originally Posted by IMDWalrus

If I were choosing, I'd do both private submissions AND a CD thread, and then consult both. But that's just me.

... and perhaps that has already been done? As everyone knows, there was a procedure for the teams to submit directly to FIRST earlier this year. I would also point out that the last time there was a formal CD thread on the topic, the resulting comments ran to over 95 pages of material, which distilled down to at least three years worth of really good ideas. Who ever said that material would only be used for the 2003 game?

The next logical steps are left as an exercise for the reader...

-dave (stands back as he is nearly trampled by the stampede running off to look up an old thread for clues)



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29 days to go!!!

[Joe Matt]

Originally Posted by dlavery

The next logical steps are left as an exercise for the reader...

Hmmm.... I remeber myself saying weights should be a scoring object in that one thread... but hey, what do I know?