Ball Corral blocking

[Thee_Mateo]

Hello My name is Matthew and I am from team 713 in NY. I was wondering whether it is illegal for a robot to block the opposing team's ball corral from their robots depositing balls. I do not see it in the rules but what I do see is that you cannot goal tend.

thanks

[Rob Colatutto]

Yes it is legal, as long as one robot does not block both the opponents ball corals at the same time.

[ShadowKnight]

you might want to read through your rulebook a bit more thouroughly though because it is in there and you might have missed other key information

[KenWittlief]

actually that was not in the manual at first, it came out in an update

hopefully once the bot ships teams will have a chance to download all the updates (most have been incorporated into the revised manual) and catch up on all the rules before our first regional.

[EddieMcD]

The rule you are looking for is <G26>.

[Thee_Mateo]

where on first website is the link for rule updates?

thanks.

[shyra1353]

the website for the manual and the upate is www.usfirst.org/robotics/doc_updt.htm

Good Luck !!

[kiwanji]

Originally Posted by ShadowKnight

you might want to read through your rulebook a bit more thouroughly though because it is in there and you might have missed other key information

If you know the answer why don't you just share rather than make someone go back and search? I have seen quite a bit of this lately in the forum. FIRST is all about open and willful information sharing not making fellow students jump through hoops.

[Rich Wong]

Originally Posted by Thee_Mateo

Hello My name is Matthew and I am from team 713 in NY. I was wondering whether it is illegal for a robot to block the opposing team's ball corral from their robots depositing balls. I do not see it in the rules but what I do see is that you cannot goal tend.

thanks

http://www2.usfirst.org/2004comp/4-T...corporated.pdf
Page 4:

"<G26> A ROBOT can only block 1 Ball Chute at a time."

[Max Lobovsky]

Not to be overly lawyerly or anything with the rules, but the rules do say a robot can only block 1 chute at a time. I was wondering what this means for two robots or say... a robot and a mobile goal. Can they block both chutes?

[jacob_dilles]

Originally Posted by maxlobovsky

Not to be overly lawyerly or anything with the rules, but the rules do say a robot can only block 1 chute at a time. I was wondering what this means for two robots or say... a robot and a mobile goal. Can they block both chutes?

lol that would be one heck of a stratigy...
or while your at it move the goals to block the other drivers veiw...
with the yellow ball still on top...

[Max Lobovsky]

Originally Posted by jacob_dilles

lol that would be one heck of a stratigy...
or while your at it move the goals to block the other drivers veiw...
with the yellow ball still on top...

well really, is there anything against that? and btw, that would be a heck of a strategy

[AmyPrib]

Originally Posted by jacob_dilles

lol that would be one heck of a stratigy...
or while your at it move the goals to block the other drivers veiw...
with the yellow ball still on top...

ID: 74 Section: 4.4.3 Status: Answered Date Answered: 1/13/2004
Q: Will it be permissible to intentionally block the opposition's view of the playing field for the obvious reason of limiting their ability to operate their robots?

A: No. This violates gracious professionalism.

It would be a judgement call on the referee as far as intentional blocking of their view, but technically they're saying it's not allowed...

[nuggetsyl]

Originally Posted by AmyPrib

ID: 74 Section: 4.4.3 Status: Answered Date Answered: 1/13/2004
Q: Will it be permissible to intentionally block the opposition's view of the playing field for the obvious reason of limiting their ability to operate their robots?

A: No. This violates gracious professionalism.

It would be a judgement call on the referee as far as intentional blocking of their view, but technically they're saying it's not allowed...

I look at it this way if you have to resort to cheap moves like blocking the other players from seeing to win the you were not that good to begin with. Something i always tell the students i work with. Make sure the other teams robot is working at it best, if it is not ask if there is anything you can do to help fix it to make it at its best. That way if we win, we knew that we beat the best of the best and not the best broken because who wants to win that way not me.

shaun

[Rich Wong]

Originally Posted by AmyPrib

ID: 74 Section: 4.4.3 Status: Answered Date Answered: 1/13/2004
Q: Will it be permissible to intentionally block the opposition's view of the playing field for the obvious reason of limiting their ability to operate their robots?

A: No. This violates gracious professionalism.

It would be a judgement call on the referee as far as intentional blocking of their view, but technically they're saying it's not allowed...

I have not found any penalty associated with blocking the view of a driver or HP by a robot or a 2X ball held by a robot. But how affective is this strategy?