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View Poll Results: Who do you want to be elected president in November?
Kerry 62 58.49%
Bush 40 37.74%
Nader 11 10.38%
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Kerry or Bush and why?

I'm just curious of what the majority is leaning towards with the election about 8 months away. I can't vote, which is a bummer. However, I'm still interested.
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As for me..... Bush
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Re: Kerry or Bush and why?

i want a.b.b (anybody but bush) to win, there has never been a president that has broken more treaties than him, and his administration is just bad. Even his own advisors (as in Richard Clarke) don't think he is doin a good job. Plus i thought republicans were always critical of democrats for spending too much money on programs they don't see as "useful" but why is it under this republican administration that we have turned a record surplus into a record deficit? It also seems like bush comes out with a new program every week, like the new "space plan" and i hear he wants broadband for everyone by 2007, yet he does even plan out how to do it. I"m fed up, i'm glad i can vote
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Bush --- I'm retain my right not to have to explain why.
It's my first election, and I'll be votin Kerry, also, same thing that Clark said, I'm retaining my right not to have to explain.

Also guys, lets keep this civil. Thanks.
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Re: Kerry or Bush and why?

I'm interested to know why 9 people have chosen Bush. Kristina made it clear why people like Kerry. Why should we like Bush?


I'm still debating between Kerry, and writing in Edwards.
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Re: Kerry or Bush and why?

Kerry, because almost all taxes collected shouldn't go to defense and leave education and healthcare in the distance, along with other programs need to internally keep this country sound.
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Re: Kerry or Bush and why?

I can not with any conscience or moral fiber vote for George W. Bush in the upcoming presidential election. Here's why:
  1. He has racked up the largest debt _even with adjustion for inflation_ of any president in the history of this country.
  2. He has passed a tax cut that disproportionately gave much more money back (proportional to income) than anyone else....
  3. For all his claims about wanting better business practices post-ENRON, he has yet to come clean about his own questionable and illegal business practices in 1989-90 with his petroleum business, nor his executive cabinet's deep connections with ENRON itself.
  4. In a time of two unfinished wars that he led us into, Bush has spent a disproportionate amount of his time on attempting a constitutional amendment that he claims is to "preserve the [christian] sanctity of marriage" - which would be the first amendment to the Constitution which would inhibit the rights of Americans (not to mention that would _change_ the definition of marriage, to that of the Christian right [what happened to freedom of religion?]......)
  5. Bush is running on a platform of the "war president", that of a strong leader leading a secure nation. Now, the 9/11 hearings are revealing that he somewhat dropped the ball on security then; he established a redundant Dept. of Homeland Security rather than fix the problems between our domestic FBI and international CIA...... and has made a less rather than more secure nation and world in general due to his actions.

Bush can't run on the economy - sure, we may have bounced out of recession, but very few of the hundreds of thousands if not millions of jobs lost in the recession have been recreated. The Trickle-down economic model doesn't work. Didn't work with Reagan heading into the elder Bush, and isn't working now.

He also will face heavy questioning when he runs on an education platform. You may remember the much-lauded No Child Left Behind act. However, you won't likely remember that Bush gutted the majority of the funding behind it, and only recently cut the standards back to a level that schools might possibly be able to meet with the aid he left in it.

To tell the truth, I voted for Kuchinich (sp?) in the Democratic primary. However, I am willing and will fall in line behind the Democratic front-runner Kerry. Nader just as four years ago I can not vote for, since his campaign primarily runs on "I'm neither (republican front-runner) nor (democratic front-runner)" every time. Not a compelling argument for me.

Kerry, I believe, has a strong chance and a strong vision for what this country can and will do to maintain its traditions and point us towards a future that is good not only for our citizens but for the rest of the world as well.

Okay, I'll stop ranting now . I welcome criticisms of this (privately if you so desire) - as constructive criticism serves to better politically educate those on both sides.
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Re: Kerry or Bush and why?

Howard Dean.

"CAN WE DO IT?? HOOOOOOOOOYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!"

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Re: Kerry or Bush and why?

Nader have good morals, but he will never win just because not enough people will vote for him. So, if i can vote, i would vote for Kerry.
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Re: Kerry or Bush and why?

I'll vote Bush.

I cannot sit here and say that I like the guy, and I wish that we had better candidates to choose from. But, here are my reasons:

1. I believe in a smaller government. I am not happy that Bush has approve the spending of too much money over the last 4 years, but I think that a Republican president would make an effort to keep the government smaller than a Democratic president. I definitely don't want a Democratic president with a Democratic congress... this combination scares me.

Although I understand we need to have governmental controls, I actually lean more toward Libertarian, believe it or not. Adam Smith and that whole "invisible hand" stuff - I like that.

2. I am against abortion. This is non-debatable with me.

3. I believe in a strong military. Our actions and efforts in Afganistan are stellar. Our presence in Iraq is needed, but I don't agree with how Bush went about things. However, people need to keep in mind that Iraq broke many UN resolutions and the UN did not have the guts to stand up to him. Also, keep in mind that Iraq is not even in the same ballpark as Vietnam with regard to American lives lost.

Before you criticize me for being a "uncaring conservative fool", think again. I give much money to charity. I serve on the board of directors at a local rehabilitation organization (not-for-profit). I spend countless hours giving my passion to another not-for-profit organization, FIRST. I often talk to my more left-leaning friends and ask them what they do for their community, and they have no reply.

These are my political thoughts. Do I agree with everything that the Bush administration does? no. Some of the things tick me off too. However, my political thoughts are more in line with Bush's compared to Kerry's.

Many of you are smarter than me and will challenge me to a debate about this. I won't play that game. You won't change my mind, most likely. Feel free to educate me, but I probably won't debate these issues. My beliefs are deep, religious, and will probably not change. I am the way I am... maybe it's the stubborn farmer in me.

While I have these beliefs, I also think that what makes America great is the freedom to have your own beliefs and not be persecuted by others for them. I'll respect your opinions if you respect mine.

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Re: Kerry or Bush and why?

Kerry, even if he isn't liberal enough for my tastes.

Bush has not made government smaller, what with the introduction of the Department of Homeland 'Security'. However, he has a horrible record for creating new jobs, in fact, the worst since Hoover. Hoover. Depression Hoover. Stock Market Crashing Hoover.

It's not even that. The typical 'New England' Republican is a socially and economically conservative favoring smaller government. This is a perfect idea, and while I don't exactly agree, it is.. defensible. Bush is one of the Neo-Conservative, or Neo-Cons. These Neo-Cons are strongly religious war hawks who do not believe in cutting down spending- they believe in cutting down taxes for the rich, giving tax breaks to major corporations, and deficiet spending billions and billions of dollars. They also are incredibly Christian, and choose to force these beliefs on government.

I am pro-government, I am pro-America, I am pro-rights and pro-informed decisions, I am for having a man in office that may actually understand the plight of the common man and the horror of living pay check to pay check, I am pro-learning and pro-robotics, and that is why I am voting proudly for Kerry in my first presidential election.

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Yeah but the same could be said for the liberals also. The liberals are probably more blatant about about it.
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I'm suprised that there's really no posts about jobs. Bush has watched as companies have begun shipping jobs overseas. Not to mention sat idley while numerous layoffs occured in the tech sector.
(sarcasm) I can fix that. Get rid of minimum wage, safety regulations, and almost every single government control on bussinesses. That will stop the shipping of jobs overseas.(end sarcasm) Note: No way am I advocating that though the above is the reason why companies ship jobs overseas. Probably tougher trade relations would fix the problem. Also trying to get better job standards in other countries would make it less profitable to ship jobs overseas. Though in someway forcing companies to stay here would be a disaster.
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Something like 308,000 jobs were fulfilled last month. What they failed to elaborate on was the other number they reported: the unemployment rate; which increased. Just great guys, it's wonderful we have created more jobs, but it doesn't really matter if more people are losing them than having them created.
No a rise in unemployment does not neccesairly mean more people lost jobs. According to my economics teacher the unemployment rate only looks at people looking for jobs. It does count people not looking for one. The rise in the unemployment rate may mean more people reentered the workforce which in fact is a good sign. I know it is really confusing and I hated that class.
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