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The Regional Wars
Atlanta was very cool for me because for the first time in 3 years, I was able to meet and have some excelent discussions with some of my midwestern counterparts. During these discussions, I came to one big conclusion....what happened to the northeast this year? Sure we had a couple of teams make a good run at it, but the finals were a Michigan and Indiana dominated set of matches! Over the years I think that there has been a definate split in FIRST reguarding the game style and teams in the region...i separate them into 4 major groups.
Northeast: Primarly a defensive region. Great past national champions such as Gael Force, Tigerbolt, Raider Robotix, and Rage and Aces High among others. A very competitive region where everyone is out for blood at the regionals and offseason competitions. Midwest: Has quickly become the powerhouse region. Primarily an offensive oriented region, with champions like Beatty and Hammond (4 times over), the Technokats, Wildstang, Sunny Delight (now extinct), and Juggernauts among others. From the outside, seems to be quite a tight knit group...very competitive on the inside. South: A good mix of offensive and defensive robots. Teams like Baxter Bomb Squad, Heatwave, Cortez High School, Space Coast, and other oldies make for an excelent competitiveness. West: Another strong offensive division with a few very solid defensive teams. Home of the Cheesy Poofs, Kingman, GRT, among others. Region thus far has been pretty much dominated by the Poofs and Kingman, but other teams are starting to show some good strength. You can almost see the rivalry forming between the regions. I know that in the northeast, very often we talk of knocking the midwest off the pedistil (sp?.) that they have been sitting on as of late...makes for some very exciting matches and great trash talking Now, the question I pose to everyone is this... What do you think of an event that would bring teams together from each of these regions to decide who is the "King" of regions. Very similar to the Ryder Cup in golf? I think it would be very cool if you could manage to get all those teams in one place for something like that. ![]() |
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Re: The Regional Wars
I think it would be awesome.
I would like to see a regional regional, but how would you decide which teams could compete. -Maybe the teams from each region would vote on 5-10 bots to go and play for them. Kind of like an election. |
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Re: The Regional Wars
The Grady Cup??? Sounds like goooooood watchin'!
I didn't realize the Northeast trash talked about the midwest so much. I'm going to have to step up my game. How's about this: "You guys don't win anymore because you're all too tired from the shuffle board games at the retirement home. It's about time you dinosaur teams pulled your 350 HP / 25 MPH-going, left-turn-signal-stuck-on Cadillacs off the road!" Okay, okay. I'm just kidding - but I had to get a jab in somewhere. Back to the topic... It does sound like a lot of fun. The only problem is that it would be tough to get all of the teams to travel for another event. |
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Re: The Regional Wars
If you are including Rochester in the northeast, there were two Rochester teams in the finals (i.e. they were Division Champions). That means, at worst, 1/6 of the teams were from the Northeast. While that's not exactly proportional, I'm not sure it's quite as bad as you seem to be making out.
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Re: The Regional Wars
Off Topic -
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Check out the history, you'll see evidence that they still exist. Team 144 - NWHS 2001 National Finalists, 2002 National Semi-finalists, Team 1038 - 2004 National Semi-finalists. Of course those last three years needed great alliance partners too!Back on topic - I think it, "The Grady Cup," should rotate year to year...IRI, Beantown Blitz, BBS Brawl, California Robot Games, etc. and could have the regional "best of the best" sponsored to compete. It would have to have some careful selection criteria to take the luck of strong vs. weak FRC pairings out. |
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There are a tons of west coast teams who would love such an event. You mentioned the cheesy poofs, kingman, and GRT, but there are few other teams who are not exactly famous to the rest of the country, and always have a powerful machine each year, like Beachbot 330, Thunderbot 980, Team 968, and team 852. And they are going to take the champion trophy sooner or later! |
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Re: The Regional Wars
The "Grady Cup" has the potential to turn into something very exciting. Sure the logistics of it are rather complicated, but let's forget about that for now.
One region that wasn't mentioned was my little part of the world, Canada. Teams like 188, 1114 and 1241 would definitely be able to give some of the "big boys" a run for their money. Despite the fact that their money is worth more than ours... =) It'd be neat if each region had to choose one three team alliance. Wow, that choice would be extremely difficult in the midwest. Last edited by Karthik : 22-04-2004 at 15:41. Reason: Spacing |
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Re: The Regional Wars
This sounds like a fun idea and could turn out to be very exciting. After some brief thought I came up with a rough draft method of accomplishing this.
How many teams Each Regional would be given one entry (entry could be one robot or one alliance) to the "Grady Cup" for every 30 teams in attendance. This would guarantee every regional at least 1 representative and mega regionals (like the Canadian one) would not be under-represented. Choosing the teams The representing team(s) from each regional should be chosen by their peers with guidlines saying that whomever is chosen must have made it at least to the quarter-finals. Where If this event were to take place I agree with Dave Campbell that it should rotate every year to a new location. The offseason events would be a good option since the competition structure is already in place. There would be many details to work out (e.g. Can team afford to make another comp. trip?). Maybe Andy already has a plan in the works . Just my thoughts... |
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i pick the Northeast because of the bond with the other teams out there like 237, and 222, i can't forget 25.
Last edited by Michael Leicht : 22-04-2004 at 16:19. |
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tune down the ego there, buddy.. the only issue I see with this is- money. Wherever it is held, there will be teams that can't make it. Probably half of them, actually, as it would cost over a thousand to drive, sleep, and spend a day somewhere far away from home. Anyone have a way to get past this issue? |
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Hmm. Interesting. The question is, would discounts be enough to help, and if so, where would they want to be? (IE: Hotel's not so much the issue as is transportation costs, or vice versa). After that, it's just a matter of making the cost part of what you normally would fundraise.
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arn't you so proud of me! ) |
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Re: The Regional Wars
For simplicity, why not invite the winning alliance from each regional. Then the competition could be more of a finals atmosphere with no quals. I mean, i realize that there are duplicate winners and teams that wont make it. But if a team from an alliance will be missing, the other two could choose a replacement from their regional? Obviously this wont represent all the great bots, or even the best bots of each regional. But it is the best representation of what it takes to win a given regional. And if these alliances face off, the winners would best represent the strongest regional. What do you all think?
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I See what you are getting at, but I was trying to provide an accurate representation of a winning alliance at a regional. The captain of a regional doesnt just get to pick the two best teams, they must make intellegent decisions from a field of remaining robots. I guess I think that some regionals may have a few incredibly strong teams(type a), and others a well rounded field of good teams(type b). The question isnt what regional has the most insanely powerful teams, rather which is most difficult to win. By comparing winning alliances, you can gauge the difficulty of winning different regionals, fielded with different types of teams. I guess I would like to see if it is more difficult to win type a or b. Not which regional has the 3 best teams attending.
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