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View Poll Results: How many tetras(not goals) will a robot be able to cap?
1 2 2.20%
2 1 1.10%
3 9 9.89%
4 15 16.48%
5 12 13.19%
6 13 14.29%
7+ 39 42.86%
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Unread 10-01-2005, 01:51
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Maximum Number of Capped Tetras?

How many small tetras(not goals) do you think EACH robot will be able to cap?


Edit:- Total number of small tetras stacked, during the duration of a match(could be stacked on various goals)
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Re: Maximum Number of Capped Tetras?

Is this on one goal or for the duration of the match?
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Re: Maximum Number of Capped Tetras?

just a note on this.....woody told me at kickoff that they put as many as 12 on a goal and it got very unstable so that was going to be their "safety limit" whatever that means


also for all those people thinking they are going to get 7+ on a goal they had better do that all at once or when placing the last tetra they will have to lift it 3.5 feet over the initial goal height
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Re: Maximum Number of Capped Tetras?

If there is any team that is able to stack atleast 3 high, then their competitors are incompetent - The mechanism just to stack that many high would have to be so quick, and your alliance members would have to be playing perimeter defence the entire time -- only way without intereference is on and off the human loading bay... but then you have to cap
I think this strategy will be frustrating... bc the engineering to do so will be timeconsuming and the reward almost nothing
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Re: Maximum Number of Capped Tetras?

i think if a robot can do 3 that is goign to be very good and any more then that will be amazing
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Re: Maximum Number of Capped Tetras?

the more I think about it, and after i lifted one of the tetras i think that 3-4 will be a good stack and anymore will be from a really good team.
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Re: Maximum Number of Capped Tetras?

I can't possibly see anymore than 3 or 4 ontop of a single goal..unless someone is trying to dump more then 3 or 4 at a time (and even if they are) I think we're going to see some self or assisted tipping of robots....
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Re: Maximum Number of Capped Tetras?

I have to agree with you on this. Our (Team #1288) measured the space between each small stacked tetra and it came to be about 4.5 inches between them. So all you people who think that you can get more than 7 stacked need to remember that there is a certain height that your robot can't exceed in the arena( not the height requirements but an arena restriction.) So I don't see you getting more than 3 or 4 at the most. THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!!
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what is the field maximum hight anyways??
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Re: Maximum Number of Capped Tetras?

i'd say you could stack as high as you can... meaning as high as your robot can reach
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Re: Maximum Number of Capped Tetras?

I'm thinking that it's going to be difficult for teams to be able to cap 4 at a time. They'd need a pretty strong arm to be able to lift a 36 lbs in tetras (which is about 28% of your robot's weight) AND since that's being lifted away from the robot, that's going to be a lot of torque on the manipulator. Then you need to worry about weight distribution even if it can carry the torque load. Certainly this is possible, but difficult. I will be impressed to see 4 stacked at a time.
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Re: Maximum Number of Capped Tetras?

someone who can stack 4 at a time consistently, or even semi-consistently will win many awards and/or regional titles.
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Re: Maximum Number of Capped Tetras?

I agree that stacking 4 or more tetras at a time will put a huge amount of stress on the arm, and will make the robot very unstable. I believe that most robots will attempt to manipulate one at a time.

I can see a strategy between teams where one robot would go get tetras, where another one would stack them. this way I can see many tetras all over the field.
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I agree that stacking 4 or more tetras at a time will put a huge amount of stress on the arm, and will make the robot very unstable. I believe that most robots will attempt to manipulate one at a time.

I can see a strategy between teams where one robot would go get tetras, where another one would stack them. this way I can see many tetras all over the field.
It is going to be vital to stack more than one at once.

Think of all the time you spend in transit between goals. If you can even store more than one tetra on your robot, that saves you 10-20 seconds, or a good 20th to 10th of the game.

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I have to agree with you on this. Our (Team #1288) measured the space between each small stacked tetra and it came to be about 4.5 inches between them. So all you people who think that you can get more than 7 stacked need to remember that there is a certain height that your robot can't exceed in the arena( not the height requirements but an arena restriction.) So I don't see you getting more than 3 or 4 at the most. THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!!
7 tetras will not exceed any restrictions in an arena. Consider last years field: we had a 10' tall bar in the middle and many teams exceeded that by a foot. To get one of the eight shorter goals that high would require 10 tetras to be stacked on it. I am not sure how much taller the center goal is, but I am pretty sure that you should be able to get 7 tetras on it before getting 11' in the air. And the 11' is just based off last years field. I am sure that you are allowed to extend past that (until it becomes a safety hazard). I do however think that 5-6 may be the tallest stack we see.
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