cap high or fast

[nuggetsyl]

would you rather be able to cap high or fast. And please do not put down you do both unless you have video to prove it.

[Denman]

if i had t o chose one, i would say fast. You can also use your arm to stick them under the goals if you need to and if there are 8 goals (say you cant make the center but can get one or two on the others ) then there is still plenty of oppurtunity for getting points. I hope ours can do both but we havn't had a center goal or more than 3 tetras to test it out on...

[OneAngryDaisy]

Looking at the past games:

2003: much alike this year's game, except with stacking tetras.. many teams designed to be able to stack high, but in the end you rarely saw any teams stack at all. The game turned in a pushfest and who could control the bridge.

2004: Hanging/Capping: more teams turn to hanging than capping

2005: A fast, strong robot can almost always prevent a robot from picking up a tetra and capping it- or can it? I don't think there will be the need to stack high, stack fast, definitely, but not stack high.


so I'd take being able to stack fast.

[tiffany34990]

ya, i agree fast is better than high. the quicker you can put up one is better since you can hopefully get it up before someone pushes you to stop you. there are so many goals so you can always stack more.

[Ryan M.]

Fast for me.

[Ianworld]

Fast is defenitly the priority. If you're fast and can cap all the shorter goals with a reasonable number of tetras you'll be able to get 3 pointers for every tetra stacked and still be able to complete half of the rows available. If one robot on your team can outstack the others in terms of height, leave it to stack the center goal at the end the match to deal with the other 4 rows.

[Matt Adams]

I'm going to sort of go out on a limb... and say that the winners are going to be who have the best tetra capping per second speed, assuming that they can't be pushed easily.

I don't see this becoming a game that's revolving much around that center goal either. Robots that get 5 or 6 tetras each round will be great to go, wherever they are.

:: Throws Out Some Bait ::
Scoring fast is the most important key to this game.
:: / Throws Out Some Bait ::

Matt

[Bcahn836]

We can do both, but if I had to choose I would say fast. Because I have a feeling it will be difficult to cap a goal if someone else is messing around with you. So the quicker the better

[Collmandoman]

fast for the regionals ~ high for the championship~
capping the last can be as much as a 43 point swing

[Bcahn836]

Originally Posted by Bcahn836

We can do both, but if I had to choose I would say fast. Because I have a feeling it will be difficult to cap a goal if someone else is messing around with you. So the quicker the better

I said this before I went to the BAE Systems regional. After seeing that event and competing in that event I saw robots that could cap high and other robots that could cap fast and a few that could do both. I found that my team can cap either fast or high but not both in one match, for the most part we capped the back row in less than 45 secs each match, but were able to put a 5th tetra on the center goal. It isn't that important to be able to do both just do one well and your robot can be successful.

[Matt Goulart]

From what I saw at BAE being able to cap quickly and reliably on many goals was much more important than taking the last 30 sec. of a match trying to put the 6th tetra on the center goal.

[lupjohn]

Originally Posted by Matt Goulart

From what I saw at BAE being able to cap quickly and reliably on many goals was much more important than taking the last 30 sec. of a match trying to put the 6th tetra on the center goal.

I would second this observation. At the Sacramento Regional passive end effectors(tetra grabbers) won out over grippers or powered grabbers. Time to locate top of tetra, pick up and maneuver to goal highly favored aim and drive systems vs. locate, grasp and then capping systems. Team 692 had a nice pneumatic gripper but getting it located in three dimensions across the field was too much time. The team ended up not using the arm and mostly defending in the semi's. Next year.....

[team1611]

i think it is not only important to stack fast, but also consistently each match. strategy is also important, so no matter what the strategy is, doing your job during each match should be first on the list. personally, i think stacking fast is better because more goals can be covered. but the high goal can also be the difference between winning and losing because the center goal can be used to connect a lot of rows.

[Koko Ed]

I'd rather cap fast. You might need to get a tetra down fast to win the match late and high stacks can fall off the goal.

[-matt-]

I'm gonna have to go with fast. if you can cap high, but its slow, its going to matter because another robot is just going to come and push you out of the way. Also, I dont have a video, but check out the pic of 217 and 229 at FLR and you can decide for yourself if they we capping high and fast.