Standings of SPBLI regional?

[Adam Y.]

Can someone tell me what the standings are of the SPBLI regional? Im just curious how my former team is doing.

[ahecht]

Awards are up at http://www2.usfirst.org/2005comp/Events/LI/awards.html.

Congrats to winners 527, 358, and 870, and chairman's award winner 358!

Matches and rankings are also up.

[[527]phil]

527!!! lol, we owe it all to our amazing drivers, ken (robot driver) and me (arm operator) O and we couldn't have done it with our pit crew!! . congrats to all our alliance partners(we rock!!), hope to see you at the nationals.


-Phil

[Alex Cormier]

what happened to the one UK team?

[colt527]

http://www2.usfirst.org/2005comp/Events/LI/matches.html

They have the team numbers for all the alliances screwed up. They show the finals between

59
176
570

vs

329
28
884

... I tried to tell the ppl at the scoring table, but I got severly yelled at by them. The alliance colors and scores are right though at least. So, unless I've been living in an alternate reality all day, they have the team numbers screwed up.

PS: The UK team goes to the NYC regional not SBPLI. So, we shall see.

[Rich Wong]

Everyone behind the scorekeeper table were so impressed every time 527,358,870 marched out of their zone together during autonomous mode. The three bots looked like soldiers taking their position and getting ready for attack!

[[527]phil]

Yeah it was awesome, we we're so we'll matched with our capabilities. my team was fast at capping and moving accross the feild (6 seconds from one end to the other without a tetra, 8 with a tetra), 870 was awesome at pushing and defense, and 358 was good at capping and utilizing the human loader stations. It also helped because 870 knocked down the tetra during autonomous and then joined the rest of us in the center, after that we went our seperate ways, and we wouldn't have lost the second match if the FIRST volunteer was restocking the autoloader instead of sitting down and staring into space!!!!!

Nationals or bust!!!

[AIBob]

Thanks
527 - For picking us for the finals, and being such great allies
870 - For being such a great and powerful ally

A funny thing about that.. look at the teams in each of the orders:
358, 527, 870:
(3 5 8 ) = 358
( 5 2 7 ) = 527
( 8 7 0) = 870


I was a bit scared in the last two matches with our robot breaking.... luckily our great mechanical/electronical teams fixed the arm
... the problems were in the pipes at the end cracking and breaking and the telescoping mechanism we have has springs and I believe one of them broke.

Congrats to all of the regional for all their great effort and great robots they built for the competition.

[BaldwinNYRookie]

Uh, hey, I'm noticing a pattern, why did the blue alliances win almost evrytime? Was there a reason? It happened to often to be a coincidence.

http://www2.usfirst.org/2005comp/Events/LI/matches.html

[The Lucas]

Originally Posted by BaldwinNYRookie

Uh, hey, I'm noticing a pattern, why did the blue alliances win almost evrytime? Was there a reason? It happened to often to be a coincidence.

http://www2.usfirst.org/2005comp/Events/LI/matches.html

If you want to argue that, go to this thread

[ZZII 527]

Originally Posted by AIBob

A funny thing about that.. look at the teams in each of the orders:
358, 527, 870:
(3 5 8 ) = 358
( 5 2 7 ) = 527
( 8 7 0) = 870

That is a bit scary. Also, did you notice that we were all sitting in the same section of the stands (358 in front, 527 behind (east), and 870 behind (west))?

[Rich Wong]

Originally Posted by ZZII 527

That is a bit scary. Also, did you notice that we were all sitting in the same section of the stands (358 in front, 527 behind (east), and 870 behind (west))?

(3 5 8 ) = 358
( 5 2 7 ) = 527
( 8 7 0) = 870

This is really freaky!

[ZZII 527]

Originally Posted by Rich Wong

(3 5 8 ) = 358
( 5 2 7 ) = 527
( 8 7 0) = 870

This is really freaky!

Anybody know the odds of this occuring randomly? I'm thinking roughly 6/1,000, but not sure. (1/10 * 1/10 * 1/10 for the three numbers that have to match * 6 different orientations of team numbers. This neglects repeated numbers and the fact that no two teams have the same number, as well as quadruple digit teams.)

[ZZII 527]

Originally Posted by ZZII 527

Anybody know the odds of this occuring randomly? I'm thinking roughly 6/1,000, but not sure. (1/10 * 1/10 * 1/10 for the three numbers that have to match * 6 different orientations of team numbers. This neglects repeated numbers and the fact that no two teams have the same number, as well as quadruple digit teams.)

Freaky 3 X 3 square of SBPLI winning alliance team numbers that reads the same horizontally as it does vertically (originally pointed out by AIBob):

3 5 8
5 2 7
8 7 0

Soooo, I did a brute-force statistical analysis on this, and here are the results:

From a computer program that randomizes three 3-digit team numbers, eliminating any combinations with repeated team numbers:

Using 10,000,000 sample combinations, the computed probability of hitting three team numbers that could line up in any order to form the 3 X 3 square that reads the same horizontally as vertically was: 0.60086%. I'd give this an accuracy of roughly +- 0.02%. This is close enough to say it's 6 out of 1,000.

Using the team list from SBPLI gives an absolute answer:
There are 40 teams, which can be combined into alliances of three in 9880 ways. Of these, only 3654 do not have a quadruple-digit team in them. (Double digits are okay;they get a leading zero.) Of the 3654, only 21 could be lined up into a 3 X 3 square that reads the same horizontally and vertically. (This is 0.575%, right as predicted.) They are:

028 028 028 028 287 352 352
270 271 287 287 871 527 527
806 810 870 871 711 270 271

352 353 353 353 358 358 358
566 527 545 545 500 527 527
263 371 352 358 806 870 871

358 527 533 545 545 545 884
570 271 352 417 496 496 871
806 711 329 570 564 566 417

The OVERALL probability of an alliance forming at random at SBPLI whose team numbers can be lined up into the 3 X 3 square thingy is 21/9880 or 0.21255%.

Conclusion: If you don't believe in fate, then this matchup is merely a 1 time out of 470 or so coincidence. Factor in that our three seating sections were lined up immediately adjacent to each other (forming one massive cheering section) and that this year's field layout is itself a 3 X 3 arrangement, and you could make a pretty convincing argument that this alliance was meant to be.

[[527]phil]