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Unread 11-04-2005, 17:23
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2005 Archimedes Division

OK, I'll start it.

Go Archimedes! At first glance, it seems as if we collectively have a big statistical advantage over the other divisions, but that of course means nothing. Let's all do our best to not believe the press and the hype and stay humble, lest we become overconfident and underestimate "the little guy" at the worst possible moment. That's exactly what *they* want Archimedes to do! Sly dogs with their *reverse psychology*.

Little ol' Team 48 is buried deep in the weeds where more offensive predators boldly hunt their prey. May Our Lady of Blessed Defense guide us and protect us as we enter into honorable battle against the offensive monsters that are contained in our division!

It's on! Can't wait! Good luck!
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Re: Archimedes Division

man the divisions are crazy this year. but i do have to say i like them all.
first did a good job at spreading the "power" around the divisions this year. i likey
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man the divisions are crazy this year. but i do have to say i like them all.
first did a good job at spreading the "power" around the divisions this year. i likey
I thought it was random

Regardless, Archimedes will certianly be an excellent division. Only 9 days left!
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Re: Archimedes Division

If there is a team who will be updating information on the Archimedes division live on their website, send me a PM or email, I am currently getting all the teams who are doing live updates on each field and will put the on 384's new Championship home page.
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Re: Archimedes Division

This division sounds like a lot of fun and I'm happy to be in it, and I don't know about the robots but I defenetly hope we have the best spirit of all the divisons. Regardless of what teams go to represent Archimedes in the final rounds; let's all show the other divisions how loud we can be a the Georgia Dome.

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Re: Archimedes Division

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This division sounds like a lot of fun and I'm happy to be in it, and I don't know about the robots but I defenetly hope we have the best spirit of all the divisons. Regardless of what teams go to represent Archimedes in the final rounds; let's all show the other divisions how loud we can be a the Georgia Dome.

Go Archimedes
Good Luck to all the Teams

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I agree! Let's make the other divisions wonder what's going on in Archimedes! RAGE is up for the challenge, are you???

We have 85 POWERFUL teams in Archimedes, let's
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Unread 12-04-2005, 08:46
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Re: Archimedes Division

i love to play in randomly generated matches with a list of good teams because your almost guaranteed a good alliance pairing. And with 85 teams instead of somewhere around 40 the "ALMIGHTY ALGORITHM" doesn't stack you against the same teams over and over again and pair you with the ones you just played against and give you the same poor alliance over and over. it's also statistical more difficult for the best team to be first seed. with 6 matches a bunch of teams are gonna be 6-0 and the qualifiers will rank them so the best team ever that wins every match and completely wipes there opponents out will be the lowest seed in that 6-0 bracket
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Unread 12-04-2005, 09:37
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i love to play in randomly generated matches with a list of good teams because your almost guaranteed a good alliance pairing. And with 85 teams instead of somewhere around 40 the "ALMIGHTY ALGORITHM" doesn't stack you against the same teams over and over again and pair you with the ones you just played against and give you the same poor alliance over and over. it's also statistical more difficult for the best team to be first seed. with 6 matches a bunch of teams are gonna be 6-0 and the qualifiers will rank them so the best team ever that wins every match and completely wipes there opponents out will be the lowest seed in that 6-0 bracket
Tytus, do you remember 2 years ago at Nats we were allied with 1 team twice and then another team twice? I forget how many were in our division, but....

This algorithm hasn't looked any different so far to me. I think they should look at the pairings for these kinds of things and run it a few times until these situations are minimized.

But as you just said, I don't think your going to see the "names" in the top 8 with straight wins. I think there will be at least 6-7 undefeated teams, and not necessarily deserving ones. Some of the good teams will go head to head and lose due to pairings also. I think the so called "super alliances" are going to be very hard to build.
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Re: Archimedes Division

I love this division , I am hoping that with so many strong teams that the other teams will not be so aggressive toward good scoring teams, because there will so many on the field at once.( hopefully, I know it depends on who you play with) At the regionals it became difficult to show our robots true potential because in almost every match it seems that the other teams had one or two robot trying to block scoring . This makes me think that strategy is going to even more critical in this division.

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hey isn't that first line supposed to say western michigan??? just wondering
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hey isn't that first line supposed to say western michigan??? just wondering

sorry ,you are right . That what happens when try to post and work at the same time .I think it correct now.

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Re: Archimedes Division

this is gonna be a tough division w/ 233, 71, 179 in here...good luck to everyone!!

it is tech. random but every few years it seems the powerhouses of that year just get in together...but we'll see who comes out on top over all.. cya around!!
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this is gonna be a tough division w/ 233, 71, 179 in here...good luck to everyone!!

it is tech. random but every few years it seems the powerhouses of that year just get in together...but we'll see who comes out on top over all.. cya around!!
Not to mention 173, 401, 245, and 122. Man, Archimedes is stacked this year. But dont count on the Arch winner winning it all. There are enough top-notch teams in each of the division for an amazing alliance to emerge and win it all. 45, 118, 67, 254, 365, 66 and 68 are all gonna try and give us one great fight for the championship! But itll be pretty hard to beat an alliance that can win Arch, especially if it has a combination of 233, 71, 173, and/or 179 in it.
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Re: Archimedes Division

1027, 173 are both in this division and were on the same winning alliance seeds #1 and 2 going into the picking. I mean there are so many good teams I cant wait to watch some of the matchs.
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don't forget about us!!!!!! lol hey we are a force also. lol not to be big headed... but you do have to look at all of the other divisions also. they are pretty tough this year.
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