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Question What will DARPA think of next?

Well as of today Stanford, Red Team, and Red Team Too have reached the finish point in the Mohave Desert! This marks completion of another one of DARPA's ingenious competitions being completed! First the Xrace and now this! So whats up on the horizon I ask? Obviously it has to be something that can be easily (easily meaning with the help of extraordinary sums of money) done. While the coarse was completed I would like to see them do a new one with a time constraint! Also I would like to see a competition involving a personal robotic chassis of some kind. So what do you think DARPA will do next?
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While the coarse was completed I would like to see them do a new one with a time constraint! Also I would like to see a competition involving a personal robotic chassis of some kind. So what do you think DARPA will do next?
There was a time constraint--ten hours.

Maybe I'm screwed up in the head, but I think the next level will involve dealing with more traffic. After all, if the military's looking to put autonomous vehicles in combat, they're going to have to deal with things moving around them.
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Re: What will DARPA think of next?

Could it be that they'll combine the two? unmanned vehicles going to near-space?

Or, due to the fact that it is for military purposes, maybe automated weapons of some sort... geez that would be dangerous.....
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Re: What will DARPA think of next?

Yeah I don't see weapons happening but they will definitely keep to their pattern and do something involving military research like Xrace and the Grand Challenge!
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Re: What will DARPA think of next?

How about this one: something similar to the Grand Challenge, but at certain points, you have to stop and put x number of projectiles (say, rifle or machine gun bullets) into a target. Said target may be anywhere off or on the road, and a human is in the area to replace it or move it. Reloads must be autonomous and the vehicle must have said weapon inside, but not break a window.

Oh, and the X Prize was not done by DARPA. If I remember correctly, it was done by the X Foundation, or someone with a similar name.
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Re: What will DARPA think of next?

Now that I've done some thinking on it, the weapons being involved is not the smartest idea... imagine how much damage a single software glitch would cause!
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Re: What will DARPA think of next?

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Could it be that they'll combine the two? unmanned vehicles going to near-space?

Or, due to the fact that it is for military purposes, maybe automated weapons of some sort... geez that would be dangerous.....
Cue Terminator 2 theme...

We don't need THAT kind of science fiction to become reality, thank you very much!
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Re: What will DARPA think of next?

The "status board" page at http://www.grandchallenge.org/ has the most up-to-date and complete info thus far.

Currently TerraMax is on the move with 106 miles complete.
Four teams completed the 132mi course yesterday (times may still change):
Stanford - 9h 55m
Red Team - 9h 59m
Red Team Too - 10h 4m
Gray Team - 10h 17m

As Dave said, DARPA is giving TerraMax a chance to finish, a team has to be under 10h to be considered for the 2M, and we should know later today (after all times are finalized) who the winner is. Congrats to all of these teams. The improvements in only a year are amazing.
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Re: What will DARPA think of next?

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Currently TerraMax is on the move with 106 miles complete.
Four teams completed the 132mi course yesterday (times may still change):
Stanford - 9h 55m
Red Team - 9h 59m
Red Team Too - 10h 4m
Gray Team - 10h 17m.
Note that the times shown on the web site status board are the elapsed track times since the robots started on the course, and not reflective of the actual time to complete the course. The clocks keep running after the robot passes through the finish chutes.

I was in Primm, NV, for the start of the race yesterday, and got to see the first few vehicles start out onto the track. CMU's Sandstorm had the fastest run time during the NQE, but they let H1ghlander go first, then Stanford's Stanley, then Sandstorm. Stanley passed H1ghlander around mile 109, which meant that it had at least made up the 5-minute difference in the starting times, and was running faster at that point. But, since Sandstorm started after Stanley and they both came in with about the same separation in finish times, it was not clear which one actually ran to course fastest. We are still waiting for a posting of the official completion times from DARPA.

It is worth noting that there were sections of the course where the vehicles had to contend with 2-way traffic. The vehicles were entering the course at staggered starting times. There were locations on the course where the "out and back loops" utilized the same sections of road. So there were many occasions where the early starters had to contend with oncoming traffic as they met their later starting competitiors on the course.

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Re: What will DARPA think of next?

Hey Dave,
Thanks for the clarification on these ever-changing times.
How many days of the year do you actually spend at home anyway?
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Re: What will DARPA think of next?

So its not exactly a game like grand challenge but heres one of DARPA's new projects called project Walrus http://www.livescience.com/scienceof...12_walrus.html
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Re: What will DARPA think of next?

TerraMax is one mile from completing the course.
Stanley and Stanford win the 2M ...
Dave, will they eventually post actual course time for each bot?
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Re: What will DARPA think of next?

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Could it be that they'll combine the two? unmanned vehicles going to near-space?
I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Think of all the land vehicles that got software glitches and went off-course during DARPA. Now when they are flying, instead of going off-course they fly into communities and cities nearby.
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I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Think of all the land vehicles that got software glitches and went off-course during DARPA. Now when they are flying, instead of going off-course they fly into communities and cities nearby.
Actually I did some research into DARPA's research projects and they are funneling allot of money into UAV technology. Considering the potential risk something like the Xrace presented I don't think the implementation of UAV/space competition is that unrealistic. It presents some interesting ideas. would you be willing to elaborate 114ManualLabor?
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Re: What will DARPA think of next?

It seems as though I got caught up in the Grand Challenge itself here. Imagine that, Kressly excited during a robotics competition. Anyway, it would seem as though I made several attempts to hijack this thread and I apologize.

Now that (edit) FIVE (/edit) have conquered the "Grand Challenge", where do you think DARPA will go next to challenge our best, brightest, and most determined?
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