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Unread 09-12-2005, 01:05
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Exclamation RFAS: Looking for Volunteers for the 2006 season!

Quick summary: We need volunteers for the 2006 season, help out your fellow Robotics teams by running the RFAS!

Hey all, Ferazel2001 here with an update for the FIRST Aid station for the new year. We have started it nearly entirely from scratch, and this year its all digital!

To explain to teams who are unaware, the Robot FIRST Aid Station is an inventory of exactly what parts each team are willing to give to the community. If a team has zip ties, they mark it in the database and when someone needs zip ties they come to us and we send them off in the right direction. This decreases the announcements of "Team ___ needs a philips screwdriver!" which get oh so annoying after a couple hours. Also the RFAS is a hub of information, if your programming has gone awry you can come to us and we will send out one of our Roaming Programmers to help you out and explain what was happening and how to fix it.

The game plan for this year is this:

We recently acquired about 12 500mhz IceBooks from an unused cart in our school (Granada Hills Charter High-school in Northridge, CA). One of these has been under constant development by me for over 3 months now, I have been developing Ruby on Rails, learning about databases, practicing with simple applications, and completing small tasks on the larger project of a completely online Robot FIRST Aid station.

We need at least two volunteer teams for each event we will not be going to, (Tel Aviv, Israel, for example. ) to be the RFAS representatives in that area. Currently it looks like we are going to SoCal and Arizona, but we haven't raised the money for Arizona yet... so thats a maybe.

Each volunteer will get a web link for: Instructions for operating the database, debugging simple problems, and a download of the latest Database and the latest software.

What is required by the volunteers is a Mac running OS 10.4 (or above) and a wireless adapter (Airport card or other) and resources for making a banner advertising the FIRST Aid Station

This is the pilot year for this technology, so please, let me know what everyone thinks!

I will be setting up forums for the sole purpose of talking about the RFAS, suggestions, bugs, general discussion, announcements on the progress and such. These forums will probly go up tomorrow.

Thanks to everyone who volunteers!

Reasons for Editing:
Removal of Laptops (We cant afford shipping for all events... If you are really enthusiastic about participating but lack resources email me and maybe we can figure something out.)
Removal of Banner (Same as previous line)

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Re: Looking for Volunteers for the 2006 season!

sounds like a great idea! wouldn't mind looking into this and helping out. keep me posted.

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Re: Looking for Volunteers for the 2006 season!

Not having needed it much, I'm curious how much of a workout others gave the Robot First Aid Station last year at LA. I really have no idea of the volume of requests they receive and direction they give. So, how many teams have used it?

Sorry if this diverts the thread, if so, don't let it. I was just curious.
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Re: Looking for Volunteers for the 2006 season!

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Not having needed it much, I'm curious how much of a workout others gave the Robot First Aid Station last year at LA. I really have no idea of the volume of requests they receive and direction they give. So, how many teams have used it?

Sorry if this diverts the thread, if so, don't let it. I was just curious.

No problem, to answer your question: Each year that I have been in this team i have worked in the FIRST aid station, the load average we get per day is enough to make it a full time job for at least two.

The reason that this year _MIGHT_ be different is because of the introduction of the Wireless FIRST Aid station. A team with a wifi laptop will be able to go to the station and get Bonjour for Windows installed, then they will be able to go to rfas.local in any browser and access the FIRST Aid Station remotely.
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Re: Looking for Volunteers for the 2006 season!

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The reason that this year _MIGHT_ be different is because of the introduction of the Wireless FIRST Aid station. A team with a wifi laptop will be able to go to the station and get Bonjour for Windows installed, then they will be able to go to rfas.local in any browser and access the FIRST Aid Station remotely.
This is exactly the type of thing I would expect to see at a FIRST event!! Awesome! Not only is it convenient, it is also self policing. GP will be expected and a trust that the information information provided by the community will be accurate will also be in effect.


Because of my professional experience, I would also like to give this caveat. This Wireless environment can also be a huge open door to spreading virus's, worms, Trojan Horses and the like. This can happen without anyones intent or awareness.

If I am reading your comments correctly, users will have to bring their wireless devices by the RFAS to get Bonjour installed. If this is correct, that would be a great time to request/inspect each laptop/device to verify that some flavor of Anti Virus is installed and updated with the latest definitions. In addition, make certain that the device hosting rfas.local is protected as well.
It is my hope that all FIRSTers would practice safe computing without ever having to mention it. Sadly, we are all human and we all feel invulnerable to these types of infections at one time or another.......... until reality smacks us in the face, and all our precious data is lost.
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Re: Looking for Volunteers for the 2006 season!

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Because of my professional experience, I would also like to give this caveat. This Wireless environment can also be a huge open door to spreading virus's, worms, Trojan Horses and the like. This can happen without anyones intent or awareness.
Unless, of course, the computer running it is a mac.

Seriously though... not piping Hot Mac Propaganda here, but with all of the latest security patches the RFAS _SHOULD_ be 100% safe, considering it does not accept files being uploaded.

As I said above, we cannot send out laptops (Money issue) so... If you can obtain a mac or already have a mac, please get in touch with me ASAP so I can get beta versions going (The more people testing the better this software will be) and if you cant... also get in touch with me.

Also, thank you for your enthusiastic response billbo911,

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Re: Looking for Volunteers for the 2006 season!

I have an old 500mhz iBook, but i dont think that i have 10.4 on it, but would still love to help out too.
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I have an old 500mhz iBook, but i dont think that i have 10.4 on it, but would still love to help out too.
I will test the server out on 10.3... it _should_ work, but I need to test to make sure.
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I will test the server out on 10.3... it _should_ work, but I need to test to make sure.
To tell you the truth, it might be running 10.2, i would have to check and i wont be able to till thursday night

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Re: Looking for Volunteers for the 2006 season!

http://www.ecs.csun.edu/~robodox/fir.../yabb/YaBB.cgi

These are the forums I put up for the purpose of discussing development and design of the web interface, please go there and get an account if you want to help!

Thanks again for the enthusiasm,

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Re: Looking for Volunteers for the 2006 season!

I've got a question, and please don't take this the wrong way.

Why did you choose mac's? You've already said that anyone wishing to use this now needs a seperate piece of software installed. What's wrong with setting up a normal 802.11 access point? I'm in no way a mac expert (The last one I used was.. 5th grade), but I'm assuming it has a standard ethernet port. You could easily connect this to a access point, and eliminate the entire software aspect. It just seems like a waste to me to have that extra software running.


Also, if its running as say.. a php app under apache, the operating system really doesn't matter.

One last thing. If you are going to be installing stuff on multiple computers, don't use a flash drive. All it takes is for one person to have a virus, and you have basically infected everyone there.
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