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Do you agree?
stopping a bot from scoring 80 points is jut as good as scoring 80 points?
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Re: Do you agree?
Well it depends on teams game strategy, but why not. I guess it would be as beneficial as scoring too. And to my knowledge there are many defensive robots out there, and most of the time teams pick other alliances keeping in mind how defensive there robot is.
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Re: Do you agree?
I would disagree, only because of the system where you are ranked by your opponents score. Other than that yes, so in elimination rounds it is the same.
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Re: Do you agree?
Depends on if you're down at the time. If you're a few points under, it doesn't matter if you block eighty points, you still are a few points under. But, by defending and keeping the low point margin, you stand a better chance at the end of making up those few points on the ramp. It all depends on where the match is at the time.
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Re: Do you agree?
From experience, I am obligated to agree. I was the driver for team 418 (LASA) and we played 118 (the Robonauts) in the Lone Star Regional Finals. 118 is actually capable of scoring 80+ points (37-40 in autonomous). Our allience (231, 1421 and us) agreed I would do what I could to stop them from scoring. Though 231 had an amazing shooter and 1421 were an awesome dumper, I do not believe we could have won had 118 been allowed to do their thing. This was not the only instance we used this strategy; however, it is the most obvious, and because this strategy worked so well, I definately agree.
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Re: Do you agree?
Disagree.
If you are down by 1 point, and stop them from scoring 10billion points, you are still down by 1 point. Additionally, every ball scored by their alliance is now under your alliances control, and able to for you to score again. I will grant you that stopping them from scoring 80 points is better than them scoring 80 points, for quite obvious reasons. This game is all about who can score more effeciently, and often, who can score last (as to not give the opponent the chance and appropriate ball quantity to respond). |
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Re: Do you agree?
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). Thankfully this problem has been solved by the existence of alliances! I would love to have a robot that could stop 10 billion points (ok, I'll settle for 80 points ) |
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I agree with the people who have said that if youre still under by justa few points it doesnt matter you need to score the points not block them
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Re: Do you agree?
Hey, guys, it wasnt a question of whether or not you could stop 80 pts from being scored, or score 83, 87, 1394... points; the question was if blocking 80 points is as good as scoring 80 points- that is to say80 points in both situations- the point differential will not be any different
I'm inclined to say that it is as good or better to block points as score them, in equal amounts- in the interest of being selected, at least, even if not selecting during alliance picking, I think that strong defensive robots are much more visible and noticeable than strong scoring robots; there are less people that can shut down (insert number of points here) than can score (insert same number) at any given event. |
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Re: Do you agree?
In my experience at the philly regional this weekend, blocking is better...
In the finals, we were against team 84, Chuck. They built an amazing robot that filled up all match so they could score 30+ points at the end of it. The only way we beat them was by keeping them on their own side of the field, away from our goal. Last edited by Cody Carey : 02-04-2006 at 20:27. |
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Re: Do you agree?
one thing you can forget is if there is another robot that can score lots of points. you can't block both at the same time. this is where i would say scoring the points is better just for the fact of keeping it close. just my two cents.
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Re: Do you agree?
This is a trick question and my brain already hurts!
Each alliance has 40 balls to start, right? So to block 80 points that means your alliance must have put at least 40 balls into your own goals, giving you 40 points or 120 points already. but if you block the 80 points does that mean 80 balls, or 26.6666 balls are now on the play field, or are they still in the opponents robot that could not get off any shots? If they are on the field then it depends whether your robot can snarf them back up off the floor. If your alliance cant do that you may be better off letting them score in the side goals, so you can (maybe) reload your robot and score them in your center goal? My answer: insufficent input - please specify all required parameters necessary to determine a meaningfull answer! :^) |
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