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Getting Tools to Atlanta

This may be a silly question, but we are a Rookie team We will be flying to Atlanta for the Championships..... Q: how does everyone get their tools and "Stuff" there if they are flying?
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Re: Getting Tools to Atlanta

We ship a second crate.

121 has a bus going. Perhaps your stuff can catch a ride

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hlight=121+bus

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Re: Getting Tools to Atlanta

We ship our tools and stuff in our crate. If you make your crate a little larger then the robot you should be able to cram your stuff inside. Just make sure you secure it or else you'll show up at Atlanta with a damaged robot .
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Re: Getting Tools to Atlanta

Find people who have friends in Atlanta... then ship stuff to them. Or, if you havent picked your hotel yet or even if you have, ask if they will hold a package for you... and just ship UPS.

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Re: Getting Tools to Atlanta

Some parents on our team prefer to drive, so they pull a trailer.
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Re: Getting Tools to Atlanta

The West Coast teams don't have a realistic option for driving tools/materials to Atlanta. We pack suitcases, plastic bins, and boxes with a mix of tools, and soft packing materials for the flight. Each team member is allowed a personal luggage piece, a carry-on and one piece for the team. The 50 lb weight limitation and fairly steep fee ($50) for exceeding 50 lb requires us to weigh each piece and balance the materials among the pieces of checked baggage available. It's not easy or fun, but you can get a lot of tools, parts and materials to Atlanta this way.

Of course, now we won't have to worry about taking a bandsaw or drill press. Silver lining???
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Re: Getting Tools to Atlanta

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The West Coast teams don't have a realistic option for driving tools/materials to Atlanta. We pack suitcases, plastic bins, and boxes with a mix of tools, and soft packing materials for the flight. Each team member is allowed a personal luggage piece, a carry-on and one piece for the team. The 50 lb weight limitation and fairly steep fee ($50) for exceeding 50 lb requires us to weigh each piece and balance the materials among the pieces of checked baggage available. It's not easy or fun, but you can get a lot of tools, parts and materials to Atlanta this way.

Of course, now we won't have to worry about taking a bandsaw or drill press. Silver lining???
I'm going out on a limb here and assume your flying...
How big of a hassle is getting the tools thru airport security these days?
Wouldn't it be easier to have your tools Fed Ex'ed to your motel?
Any airport hassle stories?
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Re: Getting Tools to Atlanta

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I'm going out on a limb here and assume your flying...
How big of a hassle is getting the tools thru airport security these days?
Wouldn't it be easier to have your tools Fed Ex'ed to your motel?
Any airport hassle stories?
Yep, we fly to/from ATL. We arrive two hours before departure. We stay together as a group as TSA x-rays, opens, waves magic wands, etc. We then reseal the packages (no duct tape, but packing tape, zip-ties, etc.). We actually ship hand carts so we can manage the equipment at both airports. I think the baggade handlers enjoy seeing how high the carts bounce when dropped 10 ft. (We've had the bearings broken in wheels, frame bent, etc., all considered normal wear and tear).

Did I ever mention that the Championship should move out west for a couple of years? Jet lag, ticketing lines and cunfosion, waiting for luggage, explaining RC controllers to TSA, should be experienced by the whole FIRST community.

Oh, yeah. Next year there's a Hawaii regional. If your going, have a nice flight!!
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Re: Getting Tools to Atlanta

Call your airline and find out their policies. You should be able to check all of your tools but they will not allow any chemicals. If you arrange it before hand and get to baggage check early you shouldn't have a problem.

Just remember to not make anyone box too heavy. Baggage that is too heavy has a tendency to get lost.
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Re: Getting Tools to Atlanta

Ususally 1/2 the team wants to drive and the other 1/2 wants to fly. This works out nicely because if we have 6 car loads of people going down there anyway, it usually isn't that hard to bring a box of buttons or whatnot along. Of course the drive is only about 11 hours for my team, this option may not work for others.
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Re: Getting Tools to Atlanta

I would suggest that you talk to local teams that are attending the Championship. We had this problem last year and we had some local teams willing to help us bring our tools to the event.
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Re: Getting Tools to Atlanta

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Yep, we fly to/from ATL. We arrive two hours before departure. We stay together as a group as TSA x-rays, opens, waves magic wands, etc. We then reseal the packages (no duct tape, but packing tape, zip-ties, etc.). We actually ship hand carts so we can manage the equipment at both airports. I think the baggade handlers enjoy seeing how high the carts bounce when dropped 10 ft. (We've had the bearings broken in wheels, frame bent, etc., all considered normal wear and tear).

Did I ever mention that the Championship should move out west for a couple of years? Jet lag, ticketing lines and cunfosion, waiting for luggage, explaining RC controllers to TSA, should be experienced by the whole FIRST community.

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How big of a hassle is getting the tools thru airport security these days?
No hassle at all - they simply will not be allowed past security. No wrenches, screwdrivers, hammers...

Checked luggage is a different story. Anything solid (metal, wood) shouldn't be an issue. Any liquids, powders, etc - forget it.

IMHO, options (in order of preference)
1. Drive (or have someone drive)
2. Ship to hotel/friend/local team/some parent's business office in ATL...
(2a - ship by bus! Cheap, reliable, and they'll hold it a day or two for you)
3. Checked luggage
4. Buy all new tools there

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Re: Getting Tools to Atlanta

Hi Guys,

We are near Atlanta, and have extra room in our team trailer.

If you run out of options, give us a call. You can ship it to us and we'll haul it down to ATL for you.

You can find our contact info at www.ForsythAlliance.com.

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Re: Getting Tools to Atlanta

If you are from the west coast, carrying your tools is definitly your cheapest option. Back in the day, we packed a craftmens roll around tool box that locks with about 40 lbs worth of tools in it (10 lbs for the actual box), the rest we carried in individuals' suitcases and bags. We even checked dewalt drill cases and such without a problem. The trick is to make sure all of your tools is accounted for at the end, we had a couple of pieces that got lost in the process.

You can pretty much check anything. When the nationals were still at Disney world, I remember stopping by the racetrack and I picking up a used nascar tire for $5 bux (it just looked cool), I checked the tire in at the airport without a problem.
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