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2009 Distribution Block

Well, we've seen the new Jaguars, and the cRIO...

What about this new Power Distribution Block? If there's one thing we really need its a new distribution block...

Anyone know whos making it? Where it can be found? Is it already on the market?

Can I download a CAD yet?
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Re: 2009 Distribution Block

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/31404

the thing in the middle, from what I hear, is much like the IFI board from 2005, combining the functions of power distribution and holding the fuses.
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Re: 2009 Distribution Block

Here is more info: http://first.wpi.edu/FRC/powerdistribution.html
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Re: 2009 Distribution Block

From my understanding the new distribution block is being fabricated by Diversified Systems (DivSys) out of Indianapolis. These are the same folks who provided the IR boards last season.
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Re: 2009 Distribution Block

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From my understanding the new distribution block is being fabricated by Diversified Systems (DivSys) out of Indianapolis. These are the same folks who provided the IR boards last season.
hmmm, i guess we'll just have to hope that these boards work better than the IR ones (my team could never get them to work), though they do look very nice so far.
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I have firm reason to believe these will be the best power distribution blocks since the 2005 season.
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Re: 2009 Distribution Block

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I have firm reason to believe these will be the best power distribution blocks since the 2005 season.
I totally get what you're saying, but that isn't saying much, given that IFI boards were great, and the distro blocks the last 2 years sucked.
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I have firm reason to believe these will be the best power distribution blocks since the 2005 season.
Yeah, but didn't that one use push-on connectors?

This one uses screws to clamp down the leads... the same method the Rock-fail-well Distro' block used Those screws always came loose.

We shall see... At least its nice and compact and not too heavy-looking..
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Re: 2009 Distribution Block

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This one uses screws to clamp down the leads... the same method the Rock-fail-well Distro' block used Those screws always came loose.
Nope.

The main battery leads are ring crimped and attached to a pair of press fit shanks. A nut is then tightened down on top of this. This is similar to the old IFI breaker board and the 120A main breaker connection, but with enhanced awesome. These are the square chunks of metal on the right hand side of http://first.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/Firs...ax_600x406.jpg

As for the fanout past the breakers, these use Wago 745-85X and 745-83X cage clamp style connectors. A piece of spring steel, not a screw, supplies the clamping force. These are the blue and white connectors on the top and bottom of http://first.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/Firs...ax_600x406.jpg

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Re: 2009 Distribution Block

I like the New Control System, the 07-08 was really annoying.
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Re: 2009 Distribution Block

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I like the New Control System, the 07-08 was really annoying.
Care to elaborate?

I for one enjoy using products that work--something IFI is very good at.

FIRST has a dismal track record when it comes to introducing new vendors/products into FRC. It's going to take a lot more than fancy specs to make the new controller superior to the old--first it has to work, which is no small task.
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Re: 2009 Distribution Block

For one, on the distro block the terminals were very hard to work with. They would wiggle out. There were other small things that i do like about the new controller. The new distro block has everything included into a package. BTW, Cory what terminal connectors did you use one your batteries, they were really cool.
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Re: 2009 Distribution Block

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This one uses screws to clamp down the leads... the same method the Rock-fail-well Distro' block used Those screws always came loose.
Perhaps someone who knows more about this can help me here, but is it possible to use split lock washers [between the top of the crimp connector and the bottom of the screw head - e.g. not between the main contact area of the connector and the terminal strip] on terminal strips to help prevent the screws from backing out?

EDIT: Thanks Al.
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Perhaps someone who knows more about this can help me here, but is it possible to use split lock washers [between the top of the crimp connector and the bottom of the screw head - e.g. not between the main contact area of the connector and the terminal strip] on terminal strips to help prevent the screws from backing out?
Art,
I am guessing you are asking about the new PD panel. I believe the intent is to ship with a nut designed for the power studs. (I don't have time to go look up the spec sheet, but I think they are metric) As I remember, that nut has built in anti-back thread so that it won't come loose. In any installation, some method of locking the turning device is recommended. Also, plan on securing the wiring so that it won't be distrubed when changing batteries.
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Re: 2009 Distribution Block

finally got a chance to look at Bilfred's post. Looks great!
The 07 and 08 ones were terrible. It was a couple of extra stages and space taken up we didnt need.
Looked more like car stereo ones.
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