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Electrical Team Prep

My school is just starting a new FIRST Robotics Team. How can we prepare for making an electrical subteam and what kind of knowledge should the leader be prepared with.
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Re: Electrical Team Prep

Well. Oddly enough, you come at a strange and new time. The FRC program is undergoing a brain change. All of the electronics are new.

I would suggest a good way would be to go to the National Instruments website and try and get familiarized with the cRyo.
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Re: Electrical Team Prep

Check out WPI's resources page about the cRIO as well.

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Re: Electrical Team Prep

I would start making a wish list of tools. You will need all the standard stuff, pliers, cutters, wire strippers, screwdrivers (both flavors). I would add to that a good digital VOM like a Fluke, big wire cutters for the #6 wire, and a soldering iron. If you can buy two, then get a 50 watt and 25 watt with interchangeable tips. #6 solders better with the 50 watt but is not needed for most applications. A good crimper for solderless connectors is a must as well. There is going to be a lot more for electrical teams to do this year. You might also search the forums for another thread about tool selcection. There were some great suggestions in other old threads.
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Re: Electrical Team Prep

You might want to check out last year's rules. The rules change from year to year... but not so much that reading the old rules won't help understand the new ones.

You will want to know something about the batteries, speed controllers and motors in the Kit of Parts. You will find some information here and some great seminars and lectures both recorded and in powerpoint format here.

Here's one that Al, who posted above, did. You could do far, far worse than to take advice from Al!

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Re: Electrical Team Prep

Make sure that not only the leader of the subteam, but everyone on the team is familliar with how you guys plan to do things. If the head honcho is not there, you don't want people not knowing what to do.

You could even do a training session just with the basics that everyone else in this thread talked about.
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Re: Electrical Team Prep

I would also add that before build season you hold a soldiering clinic for the sub team and everyone learn how to properly solder wires and terminals.
Also a crimping class on how to make a good crimp and which terminals are best for which applications.

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I would also add that before build season you hold a soldiering clinic for the sub team and everyone learn how to properly solder wires and terminals.
Also a crimping class on how to make a good crimp and which terminals are best for which applications.

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I would also add that before build season you hold a soldiering clinic for the sub team and everyone learn how to properly solder wires and terminals.
Also a crimping class on how to make a good crimp and which terminals are best for which applications.

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More important than learning how to crimp well is learning to check that a crimp or connection is good. If everyone reflexively tug tests the connections, a bad one won't go undetected for long.
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Re: Electrical Team Prep

I may be going off topic a bit, but make sure your team gets in the habit of labeling all of your cables. It comes in real handy when you take off some parts and put them back later on. A label-maker is useful for this. Also just getting hand-written labels are all right, as long as it is legible.
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Re: Electrical Team Prep

Even just practice at stripping wire may save you time and money. Until you are use to it you can land up damaging the conductors by cutting in to deep.

If you have a car audio place nearby you might be able to get some off cuts to practice on. Those high powered car audio systems can use #6 and even #4 gauge wire. If you can afford the crimp terminals to spare then this would be good practice as others have suggested.
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Re: Electrical Team Prep

Make sure you have a safety test ready, to make sure nobody gets hurt.
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