You broke WHAT??!!

[billbo911]

One of our lead students, who's name will not be mentioned, though his initials are Jon, dropped a wheel on the concrete floor. OOOoooopps!!

[Jared Russell]

I am...impressed.

[gorrilla]

is it cracked all the way through, or just through the white plastic?

[nahstobor]

normal wear and tear?

[meastman]

oh man, that's pretty bad. hopefully you have and extra.

I'm concerned that these wheels break this easily.... How high was this dropped from?

(what I'm getting at is that if FIRST is requiring me to use a system that can't handle a competition, I won't be the happiest...)

[billbo911]

Originally Posted by gorrilla

is it cracked all the way through, or just through the white plastic?

Just the white plastic.

Originally Posted by meastman

oh man, that's pretty bad. hopefully you have and extra.

Yep, we just swapped it out with one of the wheels we had put on the trailer we made. Now the trailer goes thump, thump, thump.

Originally Posted by CraigHickman

I'm concerned that these wheels break this easily.... How high was this dropped from?

(what I'm getting at is that if FIRST is requiring me to use a system that can't handle a competition, I won't be the happiest...)

The drop was between 3.5 and 4 feet. It was loaded with two sprockets, two spacers and an AM 500 hub.

[JesseK]

If a robot almost tips over, then doesn't quite tip and slams back down on its wheels, I suspect this will happen.

[jgannon]

Originally Posted by JesseK

If a robot almost tips over, then doesn't quite tip and slams back down on its wheels, I suspect this will happen.

I don't think the impact force from hitting FRP on top of carpet is anywhere close to that of concrete.

[Tom Line]

I doubt the competition field will do anything like this to a wheel. The FRP on top of carpet ends up being fairly compliant.

[thefro526]

I think someone posted a picture a few weeks ago of an almost identical break. It seems like if you drop these wheels from a over a foot or two you run the risk of breaking them. I doubt we'd see anything like this on the competition field because I'd imagine it was softer than concrete or some other hard floor. IIRC there's carpet under the FRP?

[JesseK]

Originally Posted by jgannon

I don't think the impact force from hitting FRP on top of carpet is anywhere close to that of concrete.

Originally Posted by Tom Line

I doubt the competition field will do anything like this to a wheel. The FRP on top of carpet ends up being fairly compliant.

Keep in mind that these wheels will support up to ~40 lbs each, multiplied by the rotation radius of the tipping bot. Perhaps that's not as bad as a single wheel on concrete, but I think it's a valid concern.

[smurfgirl]

Yikes! I'm surprised it broke that easily...

[Sam2197]

for stuff like this i wish i could see it from a high speed camera. then you'd realize its not that hard to crack one of these really hard wheels. if anyone is interested in a good show watch time warp on discovery. it takes random things and tapes them on high speed. i think its cool

[XXShadowXX]

i just look at that say to myself, really. they seem you know umm tougher

Then that (i wonder if FIRST will make you pay for replacement wheels if one gets destroyed in competition or if you will be charged a foul for not having rover wheel in contact with the ground...
I can easily see some impacts having more then 40 lbs for pressure on one wheel this is why i state the above, or through quote unquote normal wear and tear they become damaged enough that they could break in the event of a high speed... high force collision