Wiimote Digital Scouting System

[falconmaster]

http://www.nventivity.com/scout2.htm

One of our team's mentors came up with a scouting system using Wiimotes. We will be testing it at the AZ regional and the final version will be used in Atlanta. We hope that many teams will use this. The final version will be released before the Championships and we hope to see it used in all the divisions. Please contact us us if you have nay questions!!!
coachfredi@hotmail.com

[Cow Bell Solo]

Is there a link for the beta module, or are you just going to put it up before chaimp?

[keehun]

Can this be released in time for the 6 Week? If there are bugs, it would still be nice..

Has anyone used GUSS? How does this compare with GUSS? (I guess just by looking at the screen shots..)

[zim2411]

Don't the wiimotes fit under this?

• Two-way radios or other form of wireless communications are not allowed (with the exception of the previous bullet).

http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...pdate%2012.pdf

[John-Nicholas]

this is amazing. Is there any chance of getting a link to downloading it to test it out? Either the source or the binaries?

[roboraven15]

lol just when i was told that controlling the robot with wiimotes was a bad idea..... somebody find a good use for them lol.

[AndrewD]

Originally Posted by roboraven15

i was told that controlling the robot with wiimotes was a bad idea

It wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea...it just takes a bit of work.

[stundt1]

when would this be available for 2011?

[stundt1]

Will this be available for the 2011 season and when by?

[PICgnosis]

Hi, everyone.

The preliminary version of the wiimote scouting program and DB analyzer are available for download at www.nventivity.com/scout2.htm.

We encountered major setbacks with Afterglow wiimote controllers as well as Nintendo MotionPlus wiimote controllers. Brian Peek's WiimoteLib doesn't support these non-standard controllers robustly enough to keep 6 wiimotes connected (at least with BlueSoleil 2.7.0.35 and 8.0.338.0) We have yet to complete a match cycle with all 6 wiimotes, but I wanted to get the data entry program out there so that you can begin to test it.

Tomorrow (today, actually), we will finally have 6 standard wiimotes to confirm that the match data is correctly recorded for all 6 cells.

As far as operating systems go, we have successfully installed both the data entry and analysis programs on 32-bit Win XP and Vista. We will attempt a Windows 7 install in a few hours.

[PICgnosis]

Data entry program features:

Setup mode:
Team number
Robot starting position
Robot image

Autonomous mode:
Row attempted
# tubes made
Spectacular flag

Teleop mode:
# tubes attempted (by row)
# tubes made (by row)
# assists
# defensive manuevers
Upside down flag
Spectacular flag

Endgame mode:
Action {idle, defended, placed tubes, minibot deployed, reached top}
Minibot stopwatch
Minibot place
# penalties
Spectacular flag


All actions are also timestamped.

[gwytheyrn]

Originally Posted by zim2411

Don't the wiimotes fit under this?

http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...pdate%2012.pdf

This is a fairly good point. Depending on who's opinion you go by, since wi-fi rules aren't really enforced at all, wiimotes could possibly be illegal as they use bluetooth (2.4ghz). Really, it's a decision if bluetooth falls under "Wi-Fi use in the 2.4GHz or 5GHz bands is prohibited."

Otherwise, that's pretty sweet. I note that it uses sql, but jw what the actual languaged used was.

[Dave Flowerday]

Originally Posted by gwytheyrn

This is a fairly good point. Depending on who's opinion you go by, since wi-fi rules aren't really enforced at all, wiimotes could possibly be illegal as they use bluetooth (2.4ghz). Really, it's a decision if bluetooth falls under "Wi-Fi use in the 2.4GHz or 5GHz bands is prohibited."

Update 12 says:

• Robots may be operated via wireless control only on the competition or practice fields.
• Two-way radios or other form of wireless communications are not allowed (with the exception of the previous bullet).

Update 13 adds to this:

Wireless communication clarification:
Regarding the wireless communication prohibition in Team Update 12, we’d like to clarify that general cell phone use is permitted. However, Wi-Fi use in the 2.4GHz or 5GHz bands is prohibited.

I read that as this: "Two way radios or other forms of wireless communications are not allowed, except for the robot wireless on the competition field and general cell phone use." It is clear they do not want interference in the 2.4GHz or 5GHz bands, so (IMHO) use of Bluetooth in this manner is not allowed. I'd recommend to anyone planning to use this system that they submit a Q&A question about it to get confirmation (unless one has already been submitted and I missed it).

[Brandon Martus]

The updates Dave posted are what made 148 use a wired network in the stands in Dallas for our scouting system.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by Dave Flowerday

I read that as this: "Two way radios or other forms of wireless communications are not allowed, except for the robot wireless on the competition field and general cell phone use." It is clear they do not want interference in the 2.4GHz or 5GHz bands, so (IMHO) use of Bluetooth in this manner is not allowed. I'd recommend to anyone planning to use this system that they submit a Q&A question about it to get confirmation (unless one has already been submitted and I missed it).

I thought about the same thing. However, I read it the other way, they only want to block Wi-Fi, and allow other uses. The Wi-Fi alliance only certifies IEEE 802.11 equipment. Bluetooth is IEEE 802.15.

If they had really wanted to block bluetooth, they would have had to have big signs at the entrance to the stadiums, as every cell phone has bluetooth.