Best 3rd Pick in Newton

[Justin]

Alright everyone divisions are out people have surely dissected them by now so here's the question. What teams in Newton will get overlooked? I'm looking for maybe a great defensive team that will fly under the radar and end up as the number 1 or 2 alliances third pick?

What say you Newton Division?

-Justin

Good luck to everyone down in Hotlanta won't be making the trip this year but I'm sure it will be a good time.

[JVN]

Originally Posted by Justin

Alright everyone divisions are out people have surely dissected them by now so here's the question. What teams in Newton will get overlooked? I'm looking for maybe a great defensive team that will fly under the radar and end up as the number 1 or 2 alliances third pick?

What say you Newton Division?

-Justin

Good luck to everyone down in Hotlanta won't be making the trip this year but I'm sure it will be a good time.

Seems like the scoring is deep enough that maybe a defensive team just won't cut it...

[Rob]

I think that team 88 would make a great addition to an eliminations alliance in this division (providing they don't seed in the top 8 that is).

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Third pick, eh?

[Koko Ed]

Kind of a generalized question considering that every alliance may have a different need or preference. So what may work with 148 may not be what a 121 or a 1625 is looking for. There's alot of variables that go into picking that third team to work with that sometimes raw stats aren't going to bear out alone.

[Zholl]

Koko does have a point. You may have to wait and do your scouting at comp. For instance, my team has a relatively strong defensive bot and we did very well in our alliance at the Colorado regional, but our bot, strategy, or even our drivers may not click well with yours. It'd definitely be better to pay attention to the defensive designs in Newton and how they like to play. Perhaps even research which of the Newton bots look like good defensive players and watch the recordings of their matches if you're looking to do some pre-comp scouting.

[Chris]

I have to agree with Mr. Noonez

Just off the top of my head i find around 34 highly competitive scoring robots in Newton (in no particular order)

469
365
16
1726
1918
1038
135
121
1625
148
234
1507
1155
126
368
768
228
191
340
85
1657
1732
292
33
233
1714
2609
2996
2970
228
340
612
88
980

I would bet most alliances will pick a scoring robot with some defensive abilities, rather than a pure defensive robot. But i guess we'll all see in about a week. Should be a fun championship, it always is.!!!

But for the sake of argument if i had to pick the third pick i think will make the difference for some alliance I’d have to go with Team 85 (that is if they don't seed) They are always in the thick of it, they play smart, and are great to work with.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Chris

I have to agree with Mr. Noonez

Just off the top of my head i find around 34 highly competitive scoring robots in Newton (in no particular order)

469
365
16
1726
1918
1038
135
121
1625
148
234
1507
1155
126
368
768
2907
228
191
340
612
85
1657
1732
292
33
233
1714
2609
2996
2907
228
191
340
612
88
980
1511

I would bet most alliances will pick a scoring robot with some defensive abilities, rather than a pure defensive robot. But i guess we'll all see in about a week. Should be a fun championship, it always is.!!!

But for the sake of argument if i had to pick the third pick i think will make the difference for some alliance I’d have to go with Team 85 (that is if they don't seed) They are always in the thick of it, they play smart, and are great to work with.

You wrote 191 twice (we must've made on heck of an impression on you )

[nahstobor]

You also put down 612 twice

[Zholl]

Off topic, but it's interesting how many people are posting while I'm still in school....

[MrForbes]

heh...one of my kids just woke up, the other is still in bed, they have the day off from school.

[waialua359]

Originally Posted by Zholl

Off topic, but it's interesting how many people are posting while I'm still in school....

Hawaii has no school today as Good Friday is a State Holiday. You mean to tell me that you have/had school?

[Chris Fultz]

Many (most) public schools do not have Good Friday as a holiday.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Chris Fultz

Many (most) public schools do not have Good Friday as a holiday.

My college does. I'm on break right now, otherwise I'd be in Differential Equations at this time. It's a public college.

Back on topic:

gorilla, there are always teams that people can't believe are still available. 65 in this year's MI Championship, 503 in the 2005 Championship, the list goes on. They may be a Florida team, they may be a North Dakota team, they may be international.

I'm going to refine my earlier statement:

The best 3rd pick in any division is the one that best fits the alliance strategy and was overlooked in the previous round of selection.

[JVN]

Originally Posted by EricH

The best 3rd pick in any division is the one that best fits the alliance strategy and was overlooked in the previous round of selection.

Eric...
You are 100% correct, however you didn't really say anything.
The point of a thread like this is to have some fun and speculate about which team is going to be the surprise 3rd round "steal".

"The best robot at Championship is the one that is playing the best."
While 100% true, it is just silly to say something like that. Do you think it makes you seem smart?

Everyone knows that anyone can win and anything can happen on "Any Given Saturday". That is why we scout AT THE EVENT. No one actually makes their pick lists based on these threads.

I've been surprised this year at the number of people taking stuff like this so seriously. I don't mean to single you out. Your post wasn't bad, it just reminds me of the people who get all hot and bothered when someone says "1114 has a good machine and has a good chance of winning Archimedes". I hate it when someone feels the need to reply "Yes, they are good but anyone can win." OF COURSE ANYONE CAN WIN! However that doesn't mean we can't have fun speculating about which "greats" will come out on top.

I'm not going to speculate my "sleeper" because then they wouldn't be a sleeper anymore...
Then again, whenever I tell our scouts "watch this team, they are my 3rd round sleeper" they usually end up seeding in the top 4.

$.02
-John