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DARPA Network Challenge Win $40K

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To mark the 40th anniversary of the Internet, DARPA has announced the DARPA Network Challenge, a competition that will explore the role the Internet and social networking plays in the timely communication, wide area team-building and urgent mobilization required to solve broad scope, time-critical problems.

The challenge is to be the first to submit the locations of ten moored, 8 foot, red weather balloons located at ten fixed locations in the continental United States. Balloons will be in readily accessible locations and visible from nearby roadways.


With the network of Team in the US I think there is a very easy chance we could win this. 40k, Perhaps if we win we could give the money to FIRST to re-grant to some teams in need. Or split it amongst the teams that helped find the balloons.

Announcement October 29, 2009
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Balloons Launched December 5, 2009
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Re: DARPA Network Challenge Win $40K

If we can figure out the Game Hints each year, this should be a cake walk.
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Re: DARPA Network Challenge Win $40K

Sounds pretty cool.

Balloons will be in the air for 1 day only.
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Re: DARPA Network Challenge Win $40K

What is stopping someone from setting up their own 8 foot red weather balloon, and throwing everyone off?
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Re: DARPA Network Challenge Win $40K

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What is stopping someone from setting up their own 8 foot red weather balloon, and throwing everyone off?
I think this is a very important question..
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What is stopping someone from setting up their own 8 foot red weather balloon, and throwing everyone off?
They might have already thought of this in some respects. Like they have certain balloons with some symbol on them. They could probably sue you if they found out that you did this. As much as $40,000 sounds like fun, I don't think I'll risk it.

Wouldn't it be funny if they put one in the Manchester millyards.
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What is stopping someone from setting up their own 8 foot red weather balloon, and throwing everyone off?
Hey, those kind of thoughts lead to thick rulebooks!

I believe the "updates" will expand the 2-page rulebook to handle this sort of behavior.

Maybe you will need to signal the DARPA rep somehow?? Will the DARPA rep be wearing a DARPA "uniform"?
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Re: FIRST Consortium for DARPA, Win $40K

Team 423 proposes a collective effort on the part of FIRST teams.
Report a balloon location to us.
The first team to report each good one gets one share in the $.
If I get a few responses, I will make a team entry with DARPA: 'FIRST Consortium for DARPA'

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Team 423 proposes a collective effort on the part of FIRST teams.
Report a balloon location to us.
The first team to report each good one gets one share in the $.
If I get a few responses, I will make a team entry with DARPA: 'FIRST Consortium for DARPA'

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I think this is the basic idea originally proposed by Greg...

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The way I propose dealing with the prize money is we split it by how ever many people find the balloons at a specific location. So since the prize is $40k Divide that by 10 locations, Each location is worth 4k. So if 4 people find a specific balloon each one gets $1k etc. I am all for donating this money to charity but those people involved should get to choose what they use it for.

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Re: DARPA Network Challenge Win $40K

Not to deflate the excitement here, but I would be quite surprised if anyone in FIRST actually found any of the balloons at all. Think about it. Yes, FIRST is big, but it's not THAT big. There are a lot more areas without FIRST than there are with it. And of all the people in FIRST, only a small fraction visit this site regularly. Think about this too: The balloon could be one block from your house, and if it was a block in the direction you never drove, you'd never know it was there.

The balloons will be found by the entire informed and online population of the US as a whole. The person to claim the prize will be the one with the best real-time monitoring and verification of reports of these balloons. I doubt even if you had one million people specifically on the lookout for these all day long, that they alone would find more than 5. The country is just too large.

As we speak, sophisticated code is probably being written to track, analyze, and log any mention of a red balloon on ALL of the internet's most popular real-time places (such as this forum). The winner will be the person/group that is able to obtain, organize, and verify the results of their massive web-crawl the fastest, while placing decoy information all over the internet simultaneously.
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As we speak, sophisticated code is probably being written to track, analyze, and log any mention of a red balloon on ALL of the internet's most popular real-time places (such as this forum). The winner will be the person/group that is able to obtain, organize, and verify the results of their massive web-crawl the fastest, while placing decoy information all over the internet simultaneously.
And that's why it's a network challenge...
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...while placing decoy information all over the internet simultaneously.
Now that wouldn't be graciously professional!

But unfortunately, most of the world out there wouldn't know that...
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Re: DARPA Network Challenge Win $40K

Another thread in th Chit-Chat discussion just started on this subject:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=79188
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If we can figure out the Game Hints each year, this should be a cake walk.
I agree 100%. Mind you, I mostly agree because of the success rate on figuring out game hints.

This is a hugely complex challenge... satellite survelliance isn't likely to be enough, as a tethered balloon can easily disappear under cloud cover... so even if you were to have daily updated images you'd likely still have a challenge ahead of you.

But that's kind of the point, isn't it?

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I agree 100%. Mind you, I mostly agree because of the success rate on figuring out game hints.

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Oh yeah, the "Opah" game hint was SO obvious (as soon as we saw the regolith), right?

What about this: enlist FedEx Ground truck drivers to participate. If Team FedEx wins, proceeds go towards FIRST robot shipping?

**Duh! Per the rules: Corporations or other organizations may not submit entries.
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