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2011 KOP

Hi Everyone!
So, with the start of Logomotion, the 2011 game, I'm sure many of us are excited to get designing.
This usually begins with CAD, at least for us.

Does anyone know when the Autodesk Students community might be putting up the 2011 KOP for download??

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Re: 2011 KOP

Yes, when and where can I download the 2011 KOP models? We are ready to start prototyping!
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Re: 2011 KOP

If you can import PRO/E files PTC has the KOP and Field up

http://www.catalogds.com/db/service?d=first&c=browse

The thing labeled FTC 2011 KOP is labeled as FRC when you download it, and the image shows FRC stuff.
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Re: 2011 KOP

Is there an easy way to import those files into inventor?

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Re: 2011 KOP

Oh, I hadn't understood about the goof with the FRC title instead of FTC, thank you!

Are these parts as high a quality as those we would get from autodesk?
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Re: 2011 KOP

Would anyone be willing to export the KOP and FOP files as IGES files. We are using SolidWorks 2010 and we are unable to import the ProE files.

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Re: 2011 KOP

I could use some ipt and iam files. Anyone?
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All of the files have a .2 extension. Are they a zip or something I need to remove?
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Re: 2011 KOP

Just delete .2 I think. It's part of pro-e's version control.
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Re: 2011 KOP

Most of the parts found in the KOP can be downloaded from http://team1323.com/cad/index.html
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Re: 2011 KOP

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Would anyone be willing to export the KOP and FOP files as IGES files. We are using SolidWorks 2010 and we are unable to import the ProE files.

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I have posted a 2010 FRC KOP training robot to help learn how to create a 3D Robot assembly in SolidWorks. Many of these parts are in the 2011 KOP. I am still trying to get more components from the original vendors. But this will help get you started.
http://blogs.solidworks.com/teacher/...rning-cad.html


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Re: 2011 KOP

Since I was having the hardest time getting the Banebot motor models imported into SolidWorks (and particularly could not find the 775 model anywhere else), I was able to open and save them to .step files in the CAD lab at my school. Here they are if you're interested.

Edit: I just checked the shaft dimension of the 775 model, and it seems that the 550 and 775 models from the PTC KOP are exactly the same, and the 775 motor model is missing in the Inventor KOP... :-/
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Re: 2011 KOP

Thank you Arthur

So I want to share with all you robot designers a little history lesson on importing cad geometry. Since the beginning of cad systems in the stone age of late seventies and early eighties there were multiple cad software applications. Most had one or two file formats. Then requests came from customers that wanted to share data. Data exchange formats were born. A big player was IGES.

Today you are faced with multiple cad software. For the most part, 3d parametric software like SolidWorks, ProE, inventor are not backward compatible. Which means if you received a model file from a 2010 release you could not open it in 2009.

But Arthur used another neutral data exchange format called STEP.
STEP files can be read into CAD systems when you select File, Open and then change the files of type to STEP

The model is recreated. It is a dumb model meaning you cannot drive the model by dimensions or parameters. However for purchased parts, these models work great. You just have to add mass in the assembly. For SolidWorks this is under Tools,Mass Properties.

3DContentCentral.com makes an effort to go back 2 to 3 years plus add neutral file formats of different types. Some neutral file formats work differently between cad software.

In 1985 I worked with an early Cad software called Medusa and way back then when computers were the size of a classroom, engineers had issues with data exchange. History repeats itself. Marie
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Re: 2011 KOP

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If you can import PRO/E files PTC has the KOP and Field up

http://www.catalogds.com/db/service?d=first&c=browse

The thing labeled FTC 2011 KOP is labeled as FRC when you download it, and the image shows FRC stuff.
These are the file I want but I need somebody who has ProE to open them up and save them as IGES files. Would anybody be willing to do that for me? I would like th KOP and the field models.

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These are the file I want but I need somebody who has ProE to open them up and save them as IGES files. Would anybody be willing to do that for me? I would like th KOP and the field models.

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I too have been unable to successfully import the pro-e models. They're making SolidWorks act REALLY weird.
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