illegal

[tomy]

does anyone have a list of motors for previous years that are illegal this year. if you have pics of them two that would be awesome

[EricH]

Van Door: black, looks kind of like a window motor with an extra-long shaft. Discontinued after 2004, IIRC.
Drill motor: looks a lot like an FP. Often found in pre-2005 drives.
Taigene window motor: silvery version of the Densos. Don't remember when it was discontinued.
Mabuchi motor: looks like a BB motor, no gearbox. Don't remember when it disappeared; it was used in 2005.
Seat motor: so old I don't remember what it looks like... discontinued after 2002.
Globe motor: looked like a BB with a black gearbox on the end of the same diameter and a shaft with a flat on it. I forget when it was discontinued; probably shortly after 2004.

Any particular reason you're asking?

[thefro526]

Eric's list is pretty comprehensive, but he did forget one motor, the large CIM.

I believe it was offered in the kit from 2005 to 2007, it was approximately 3" in diameter whereas the current CIM is 2.5" in diameter. The dead giveaway, if you can't tell by the size, is that the large CIM had a pulley and tensioner attached.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by thefro526

Eric's list is pretty comprehensive, but he did forget one motor, the large CIM.

I believe it was offered in the kit from 2005 to 2007, it was approximately 3" in diameter whereas the current CIM is 2.5" in diameter. The dead giveaway, if you can't tell by the size, is that the large CIM had a pulley and tensioner attached.

And the mounting angle on one side by the shaft. 2006-2007 was the legal time to use it.

[tomy]

What about motors from previous motors are any of those illegal?

Like ones from 2008 and newer?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by tomy

What about motors from previous motors are any of those illegal?

Like ones from 2008 and newer?

The FPs that weren't in this year's kit are illegal--there was a change in type.

I can't recall any others offhand.

Any particular reason you're asking?

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by EricH

Globe motor: looked like a BB with a black gearbox on the end of the same diameter and a shaft with a flat on it. I forget when it was discontinued; probably shortly after 2004.

The Globe motor was discontinuted in 2010. The last kit it appeared in was 2009.

[tomy]

we are using a motor for our arm and one of our team mates said it was illegal and i do not know what the motor is called i believe got it last year

[tomy]

this is what the motor looks like

[EricH]

That's a window motor, so it's either a Taigene or a Denso.

My best guess is it's a Denso, as the Taigene gearboxes tended to be metal.

Next question: Does the part number match the part number on the KOP checklist? If so, and you aren't using another 2 of that type, you're OK. If not, you're not OK.

[tomy]

so any motor is legal as long as we put it on our BOM list

my question is what makes a motor illegal

[big1boom]

Originally Posted by tomy

so any motor is legal as long as we put it on our BOM list

Any motor is legal, as long as its Part Number matches one that is one the KOP checklist, or is specifically allowed in the Manual.


So,
4 CIM motors
1 FP (2011 Model)
2 Right hand Denso Window Motors
2 Left Hand Denso Window Motors
4 BaneBots motors, any combination of the 4 allowed models.

[thefro526]

Originally Posted by big1boom

4 BaneBots motors, any combination of the 4 allowed models.

There are actually 6 legal Banebot motors, The M7-RS775-12, M7-RS775-18, M5-RS550-12, M5-RS550-12-B, M5-RS540-12, and M3-RS395-12.

The two not originally included in the KOP were the RS775-12 (Physically Identical to the RS775-12, but designed to run on 12 volts, less robust and less powerful than an RS775-18 running at 12V) and the RS550-12-B (Functionally and Physically Identical to the RS550-12, but has a longer shaft on back of motor to facilitate encoder mounting.)

You can use any 4 motor combination of the 6 legal motors.

[Tristan Lall]

Nobody remembers the Belimo torque motor?

[Tristan Lall]

Also, there were actually a couple different drill motors. In 2000, 2001 and 2002, there was a Johnson drill motor (roughly RS-775-sized, I believe). Then came the more powerful Bosch/Scintilla drill motor from 2003 to 2004.

There were also several versions of the window motor. In particular, there were both left- and right-hand versions of the Denso, Nippon Denso and a number of externally-similar Keyang window motors. I don't think Tiagene made any, but I could be wrong.

There were several different van door motors, from Bosch and Tiagene (they look like window motors, but are bigger).