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pic: Team 399's arm after the SD finals match 1.

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Re: pic: Team 399's arm after the SD finals match 1.

Any thoughts on what caused the failure?

I watched the claw appear to twist while you guys were near the Blue Alliance pegs attempting to hang. I thought it looked odd, guess it was really the arm that was twisting. Then it was, OMG their arm came off!

Sorry that had to happen.

As soon as I saw your alliance with 1504, I leaned over to my neighbor and said "It will be them and #1 alliance in the finals". I knew your alliance was going to be strong, too bad it had to end like it did.

Good luck in the rest of your competitions!
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Re: pic: Team 399's arm after the SD finals match 1.

Looks stressful.
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Re: pic: Team 399's arm after the SD finals match 1.

Wow, that's a bummer. It's also a tough way to learn about why tubes should be left tubular, and not cut away....
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Re: pic: Team 399's arm after the SD finals match 1.

when i first saw this i thought it was wood. bummer but for replacement thinner walls usually make for a tougher/weight ratio than thick walls pocketed.
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Re: pic: Team 399's arm after the SD finals match 1.

Is that break also further up the arm? (closer to the pivot)


If you want to pocket, use a smaller diameter and also just use regular holes instead of large slots like this one.
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Re: pic: Team 399's arm after the SD finals match 1.

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Is that break also further up the arm? (closer to the pivot)
From what I saw in the video of Final 1, it looks like the arm broke close to the pivot point, probably within 3" or so. (But I could be wrong.)
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Re: pic: Team 399's arm after the SD finals match 1.

That's what it looked like from the stands, the break was just beyond the pivot point.
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Thanks for a great alliance guys. Nice being with 399 and 1540 as well as 294 Good luck at your next regional
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Re: pic: Team 399's arm after the SD finals match 1.

The break was about 4" down from the pivot point. The initial end effector (pincher claw) was much lighter before weighing approximately 2lbs. Put a 6lbs roller claw out there (including the pocketing) and you can easily tell why this arm broke off. The stress by the end of the competition was too much.

I can assure you that our new arm will have much less holes by the time we go to LA. It's a painful lesson to learn, particularly in the finals, but one that we will remember.
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Re: pic: Team 399's arm after the SD finals match 1.

That is terrible, I only saw it from the stands, and it looked pretty bad even from up there. Hopefully you guys can get that fixed because that was one great robot.

I do have to thank you very much for allowing us to be substituted into your alliance
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Re: pic: Team 399's arm after the SD finals match 1.

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Looks stressful.
and strainful....


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Re: pic: Team 399's arm after the SD finals match 1.

Is it really surprising that the arm failed given the quite drastic lightening pattern used on the arm?

Definitely a bummer but maybe side on the side of slightly overbuilt versus one hit away from total failure. Also maybe look into fiberglass to save weight without having to be cheeseholed
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