Week 5 OPR

[Travis Hoffman]

Using OPRnet and the attached batch file (rename to week5.bat after downloading), I came up with the attached spreadsheet detailing OPR results for all events through Week 5.

Note - OPRnet version 15 fails to calculate OPR's for Midwest and the Troy District, but these have been posted by others elsewhere on CD.

The batch file is prepopulated with Week 6 events and outputs all results to "allranks.txt", so you should be able to run it after next week's events and generate a new file.

[Racer26]

Looks like GTREast was a remarkably weak/top heavy regional. 1114 and 1503 had high OPR, then a second tier from 188/1075/907, and then everyone else.

[Chris is me]

The sixth highest OPR in the country is a team that cannot floor load at all.

If that's not a testament to great driving and simplicity, nothing is.

[Racer26]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

The sixth highest OPR in the countryworld is a team that cannot floor load at all.

If that's not a testament to great driving and simplicity, nothing is.

Fixed it for you.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

The sixth highest OPR in the country is a team that cannot floor load at all.

If that's not a testament to great driving and simplicity, nothing is.

Nick and 1503 are terrible. Nobody pay attention to them at CMP. So bad. Don't even scout them.

[Nick Lawrence]

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

Nick and 1503 are terrible. Nobody pay attention to them at CMP. So bad. Don't even scout them.

I'm cool with this.

I'm still stunned that we're that high up there. I just can't get it to add up in my head.

-Nick

[thefro526]

Originally Posted by Nick Lawrence

I'm cool with this.

I'm still stunned that we're that high up there. I just can't get it to add up in my head.

-Nick

So, first you don't understand Squares - and now you don't understand math? What's this world coming to?

(Just kidding bro, you know you're the man.)

It's interesting to see that 111 edged out 1114 for the number one spot. I'd love to see them play one another.

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by thefro526

So, first you don't understand Squares - and now you don't understand math? What's this world coming to?

(Just kidding bro, you know you're the man.)

It's interesting to see that 111 edged out 1114 for the number one spot. I'd love to see them play one another.

A fine example of the wonderful Canadian educational system eh?

[Coach Tom]

Any interested in calculating the OPR's for each team on a Qualification Rounds versus Elimination rounds basis? It would seem to me that the statistics would fall into two distinct blocks.

Hypothesis:

[1]OPR's during qualification rounds would most closely reflect the scoring power of an individual team
[2]OPR's during elimination rounds would most closely reflect the scoring power of an alliance

Since elimination play for the top teams can represent about 33% of their matches, breaking out the analysis would be interesting. Does anyone else agree?

[The Lucas]

Originally Posted by Coach Tom

Any interested in calculating the OPR's for each team on a Qualification Rounds versus Elimination rounds basis? It would seem to me that the statistics would fall into two distinct blocks.

Hypothesis:

[1]OPR's during qualification rounds would most closely reflect the scoring power of an individual team
[2]OPR's during elimination rounds would most closely reflect the scoring power of an alliance

Since elimination play for the top teams can represent about 33% of their matches, breaking out the analysis would be interesting. Does anyone else agree?

OPRNet only uses Qual matches. Elims skew the results (power of alliance as you say)

[Coach Tom]

Thanks for the background education. I guess I was thinking right!
I am glad to hear that only elimination rounds are evaluated. It seems reasonable and best.

[sdcantrell56]

1503 is an exception and not the rule. Give there robot to any other driver and it would be another decent but not great robot. Nick makes that robot excellent so saying simplicity is the secret to success is selling his skill a bit short. I stick by our teams, and the majority of successful teams decisions in that floor loading is necessary to be competitive at champs.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by sdcantrell56

1503 is an exception and not the rule. Give there robot to any other driver and it would be another decent but not great robot. Nick makes that robot excellent so saying simplicity is the secret to success is selling his skill a bit short. I stick by our teams, and the majority of successful teams decisions in that floor loading is necessary to be competitive at champs.

On the contrary, if it takes you a week less time to build a 1503 robot, you have that much longer to train your driver. You won't be Nick Lawrence, but if I could trade floor loading for a week of practice with 2791's robot, I would get rid of floor loading.

[Coach Tom]

Sorry for the simple question, but how is OPR calculated? As an example, I took the sum of 1114's Waterloo qualification round scores and divided that by the number of matches and got 80.6 -- yet their OPR for that event was 71.88. What is the algorithm? Do you count the minibot?

Others who are not familiar with this metric might benefit from knowing!

[Karthik]

Originally Posted by sdcantrell56

1503 is an exception and not the rule. Give there robot to any other driver and it would be another decent but not great robot. Nick makes that robot excellent so saying simplicity is the secret to success is selling his skill a bit short. I stick by our teams, and the majority of successful teams decisions in that floor loading is necessary to be competitive at champs.

As someone who has seen everyone of 1503's matches in person, let me set the record straight. Their driver has done an excellent job controlling that machine, but to give him all or even most of the credit is a disservice to that entire team and their design. I think Nick would be the first person to admit this. Remember, Nick was their driver last year, with an extremely complicated robot, and their results were less than favorable by their own standards. The reason 1503 is so successful this year is definitely the simplicity. The robot is easy and intuitive to drive, the geometry is optimized perfectly for top row scoring and the single speed drivetrain handles like a dream. I'm quite confident that if they went with a more complicated approach, they would not have been nearly as successful. A simple, well thought out robot will make any driver and team look better. Full credit to all of 1503 for recognizing this and building a robot that's dominant at smaller subset of the game, as opposed to mediocre at all facets.