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1114: Absolutely stunning record over the last few years

Was just looking at the results from this year and realized just HOW incredible their record is:

2011:
1114 has a WLT record of 48-1-0 after three events.
The only match they've lost this year was Q47 in Pittsburgh, against 2656/378/48, by 13 pts.
I'm proud to say my team was part of their closest victory margin (they beat us by a mere 4 points, 76-72 in Q24 at Waterloo).
They've acquired 4 blue banners already this year, winning Pittsburgh, Waterloo and GTREast, as well as winning the RCA for GTREast.

I can't wait to see what CMP has in store for them.

Consider though, their record in 2010.

In 2010, 1114 had a WLT record of 66-3-2.
They went undefeated in regional competition, losing Q100 in Curie on purpose, playing against 111/888/469.
They went undefeated in Curie Eliminations, winning the Division, and going to Einstein finals, to lose in 2 matches to 177/67/294.
They earned 5 blue banners in 2010, winning Pittsburgh, Waterloo, GTR, Curie Division, and the RCA for Waterloo.

Over less than 2 seasons, that's 114-4-2. With one of those 4 losses being on purpose, and 2 of the other 3 in Einstein finals. Positively impressive.

2009's record is slightly less impressive at 29-9-0, being upset in Midwest by the #8 alliance, and only going to 2 regionals. They still managed to take home 1 regional win at GTR, and an RCA.

And of course, their Championship run in 2008, regular season record of 59-7-0, one of the losses being on Einstein. 3 regional wins, Galileo Division, Championship, and Waterloo's RCA.

All told, since 2008: 202-20-2, with 3 of the 20 losses on Einstein, 1 on purpose, 10 regional wins (out of 11 regionals attended), 2 championship divisions (out of 3 attended), 1 championship (out of 3 attended), and 4 RCAs (out of 4 submissions).

Since their inception in 2003, they've won 17/24 regionals attended, at least one every year since 2004, attended championship all 8 years, since 2006, they've only not won 2 regionals they attended (2007 GLR, 2009 Midwest), and an RCA every year since 2006 (6/9 possible). They've won 3 regionals in the same year 4 times now (2006, 2008, 2010, 2011), one of only a handful of teams to do that, the ONLY team to win 3 regionals AND Championship in the same year (2008).

Good luck 1114: I hope you win that long overdue Championship Chairman's, and another Championship win, after coming so close to a perfect season in 2010. Don't let the dissenters get under your skin.
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Re: 1114: Absolutely stunning record over the last few years

Reading over these mind-boggling statistics confirmed my suspicions that 1114 is a really really amazing team that has been able to repeatedly dominate everyone else despite very tough competition and a pool of competitors that increases greatly every year. It amazes me how they are able to have such few losses... they must have a very strong strategy team.

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the ONLY team to win 3 regionals AND Championship in the same year (2008).
One thing of note: 67 won three district competitions, a state championship, and the world championship in 2009... could that possibly be construed as being equivalent to winning three regionals and a championship?
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Re: 1114: Absolutely stunning record over the last few years

I agree, this is absolutely outstanding!

1114 is THE benchmark standard that I use to compare my teams success to.

An outstanding group of teachers, mentors, and students. They have earned all their success.

Good luck in St. Louis 1114!
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Re: 1114: Absolutely stunning record over the last few years

Even more mind boggling is that they only have 1 world championship with their previous 5 robots (06-10) all capable of taking it with an equally effective partner.
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Even more mind boggling is that they only have 1 world championship with their previous 5 robots (06-10) all capable of taking it with an equally effective partner.
Yep. And to be fair, there is a certain amount of luck involved at the Championships...

Kudos to 1114!
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Re: 1114: Absolutely stunning record over the last few years

I would like to also say that 1114 is an amazing team and always a force to be reckoned with. I can also proudly say that I was on the drive team when our alliance (1218, 2753, 222) beat them in the Archimedes division in 2009 to go on and win the division. It was an absolutely amazing set of matches and there could not have been a better foe. Between 1114 and 2056 we had our work cut out for us. I can honestly say it is one of my fondest memories because both teams were equal and the scores were so close. Even in defeat the team members were nothing but nice and congratulatory, true marks of what FIRST students should be. Thanks to 1114 and 2056 for the amazing match and the memories. Best of luck in St. Louis this year!!
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Re: 1114: Absolutely stunning record over the last few years

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Yep. And to be fair, there is a certain amount of luck involved at the Championships...

Kudos to 1114!
I couldn't agree more. I can recall at least a few instances at the championships where teams who, paired with the right other robots, could have easily taken their division and possibly won on Einstein as well. In all of these instances, the potential alliances instead skipped over the team for one reason or another, and were lucky if they made it out of the QFs alive.

Of course, this could come down to individual opinion and may not be the best anecdotal evidence. Nonetheless, I firmly believe, and my mentors continually remind me that, the championship is about 50% luck.
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Nonetheless, I firmly believe, and my mentors continually remind me that, the championship is about 50% luck.
I disagree with this statement. There is some luck involved in winning a Championship, but it is not 50%.

Winning a Championship requires being prepared to take advantage of skilled drivers, a good robot, excellent scouting, good coaching, teamwork, a great alliance, and a small amount of luck.

I am sure all the teams that believe they have a shot at a Championship this year are doing everything they can to be prepared for that opportunity.

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Re: 1114: Absolutely stunning record over the last few years

294 lost only two matches in Atlanta last year. One of them was on Einstein, in the other, our robot suffered the start-up CANbus error during Newton elims.
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Re: 1114: Absolutely stunning record over the last few years

1114 consistently has not only great machines, but also brilliant scouting, outstanding strategy, and excellent alliance partners in eliminations that help them go a very long way at Championship; however, as some have said before me, there is a small amount of luck involved: the divisional assignments have the power to separate or put together teams that might have/might have not had the opportunity to join together otherwise. That, alone, is enough to make or break some legitimate chances at a championship.

Schedules, as well, play some part in the way Championship pans out: seeding at the end of qualifications matches can sometimes be skewed because of schedules and/or the Ranking Points system; for example: team 469, Las Guerrillas, despite having one of the best robots in the world last season, most certainly did not always seed first (I would say only once or twice in at least four competitions, but I'm reluctant to say that because I'm not exactly sure), and powerhouse teams that don't seed first are at the mercy of other highly-seeded teams for their alliance during eliminations. Because of the rules restricting acceptance/denial of alliance invitations, it is possible for a team that shoots to the top of the standings to "interfere" with certain teams allying.

So, while a great team can win the FIRST Robotics Championship, so many factors play into the ability of a team to do so that one must admit that there is quite a bit of fortune involved; regardless, the alliances that make it to Einstein are almost always extremely competitive, and rarely does one see lopsided match-ups there.

In the end, the alliance that had not only excellent design and consistency, but also luck on their side wins the Championship.
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1114 consistently has not only great machines, but also brilliant scouting, outstanding strategy, and excellent alliance partners in eliminations that help them go a very long way at Championship; however, as some have said before me, there is a small amount of luck involved: the divisional assignments have the power to separate or put together teams that might have/might have not had the opportunity to join together otherwise. That, alone, is enough to make or break some legitimate chances at a championship.
Nothing has impressed me more about 1114 than the quality and accuracy of their scouting. Over the years, both as a fellow student and as a mentor, I've struggled to find ways to motivate an entire team to scout. I've worked with individuals or small groups of dedicated students who made great "lead scouts," but never had a whole team want to scout and deliver me information that I could trust as comprehensive and close to 100% accurate. Somehow 1114 has managed to instill such a culture where scouting is a priority and they can gather efficient, accurate, and organized data. I wish I knew how to replicate that. It's simply amazing.
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294 lost only two matches in Atlanta last year. One of them was on Einstein, in the other, our robot suffered the start-up CANbus error during Newton elims.
But When you look at the season record of 39-14-5, it doesn't compare to what is being discussed in this thread.

It's certainly impressive to have that record at champs, but 1114 maintains these records for an entire season, season after season... It's just an entirely different level.
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Re: 1114: Absolutely stunning record over the last few years

its funny that 1114 and my own team 1089 both had our rookie seasons in 2003. interesting to see how two teams that started the same year have had totally different histories. while 1089 is by no means a powerhouse, we're on our way! sometimes i wish i was a member of a powerhouse team like 1114 or 365, or even 25 (theyre a powerhouse to me) but then i snap back to reality, and it makes me want to try my hardest to watch my own team get to that level, and be considered a great FRC team.

congrats to 1114 for all your continued success, and i wish nothing but good fortune in the years ahead. i cant wait to watch you guys compete against the best at CMP's this year, and maybe IRI (if y'all are goin and i can convince my parents to let me make a road trip )
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But When you look at the season record of 39-14-5, it doesn't compare to what is being discussed in this thread.

It's certainly impressive to have that record at champs, but 1114 maintains these records for an entire season, season after season... It's just an entirely different level.
You're right- 1114's record is simply ridiculous.
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I disagree with this statement. There is some luck involved in winning a Championship, but it is not 50%.

Winning a Championship requires being prepared to take advantage of skilled drivers, a good robot, excellent scouting, good coaching, teamwork, a great alliance, and a small amount of luck.

I am sure all the teams that believe they have a shot at a Championship this year are doing everything they can to be prepared for that opportunity.

I know we are...
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