Minibot Stored Energy

[mayde]

I don't spend much time with my nose in the rulebook, but i like to think that if it's not propelling the minibot in any way, that it should be legal. especially when you look at the spirit aspect of it.. i think it's a neat idea.

[nighterfighter]

Originally Posted by mayde

I don't spend much time with my nose in the rulebook, but i like to think that if it's not propelling the minibot in any way, that it should be legal. especially when you look at the spirit aspect of it.. i think it's a neat idea.

Bonus (cool) points if it is timed to deploy right as the end-game trumpets sound.

[Zoughtbaj]

Good sir, I believe you and I have the same idea in mind

The way I read it, as long as it does not apply to "move up the POST," it would not count, as the rule specifies that this only is prohibited. By moving up the post, it is implied that the force must apply to upward movement using the post, and therefore, if the movement does not directly effect your force up the post, or does not have anything to do with the the use of the post it shouldn't be prohibited, .

[ttldomination]

I don't see the HUGE benefit in the idea. Sure I suppose you might be able to gain 6 inches or so advantage. I suspect if you've maxed out your speed, then go for it.

[MagiChau]

Wait? I think this is getting a bit off-topic. The guy seems to want a have a decoration on the minibot. As far as I know according to <G19> it would be legal assuming this is indeed a decoration and does not contribute to any vertical movement at all.

[Seelingcat]

Originally Posted by ZonChau

Wait? I think this is getting a bit off-topic. The guy seems to want a have a decoration on the minibot. As far as I know according to <G19> it would be legal assuming this is indeed a decoration and does not contribute to any vertical movement at all.

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even if <G19> weren't there, I'd say go for it. I mean, they're not going to kill your team if you put that on there. Just put it on and if it's illegal take it off. If it's just for decoration it shouldn't do anything if removed.

[Al Skierkiewicz]

Non-functional decorations are just that.

[sjspry]

<G19> means that HOSTBOTS are not allowed to launch the MINIBOT up the pole at the TARGET, or otherwise contribute to the vertical movement of the MINIBOT. Energy for vertical movement may not be stored in the MINIBOT before DEPLOYMENT (except that which is contained within the battery and excluding incidental kinetic energy stored in the motors or wheels, but NOT, for example, in a flywheel).

So would it be possible to, before deployment, use some of the minibot's battery to power ... something ... and store energy? It seems like it would to me, as long as that power originated from the minibot's battery.

[Joachim]

Originally Posted by sjspry

So would it be possible to, before deployment, use some of the minibot's battery to power ... something ... and store energy? It seems like it would to me, as long as that power originated from the minibot's battery.

The GDC's wording could have been better, IMO, I think they meant this:

<G19> means . . . . Energy for vertical movement may not be stored in the MINIBOT before DEPLOYMENT (except within the battery and excluding incidental kinetic energy stored in the motors or wheels, but NOT, for example, in a flywheel)..

They just used a few unnecessary words ("that which is contained") which create potential confusion because they are unnecessary. A flywheel is just an example of what is not within the exception for "incidental kinetic energy." There is no other exception.

[Al Skierkiewicz]

As I understand the original post, this design would have something on the robot that is extended after deployment to make the minibot extend to the maximum size but still be contained within the 12 cube. As the stored energy is not contributing to the climbing of the post, but merely contributing to a change in attitude, or configuration, it appears from the description and my understanding to be within the rules. The GDC through the Q&A is the final say so please form your question and post it on the Q&A.