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Unread 16-01-2011, 13:19
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Re: Breaking a logo combination

Seems like this move would make tactical sense, even if you did cross into the opposing ZONE. The penalty is only 1 point, whereas your opposition could score much more than that by doubling their row score. Then the question is different -- is the "hidden" logo still a logo that creates the row score doubler? If the answer to that is yes, then there is no value to this move at all.

Though if you are that good at placing tubes, it seems like you would be further ahead by completing your own logo.
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Unread 16-01-2011, 13:27
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Re: Breaking a logo combination

Well, there is no precise definition for "de-scoring" in the manual, but in 2007 it was defined as removing the tubes from the rack. Hard to say if they have kept that definition this year.

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The penalty is only 1 point, whereas your opposition could score much more than that by doubling their row score. Then the question is different -- is the "hidden" logo still a logo that creates the row score doubler?
A penalty is three points, not one. Also, according to <G63>, the outermost Game Piece is counted for scoring, so they wouldn't get a Logo Bonus for a hidden Logo.

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Re: Breaking a logo combination

Thanks for clarifying. And thanks for the note on the penalty -- I never did read the definitions section closely until now. So this would be a very limited strategy unless you could, as the original poster suggested, accomplish the difficult task of placing a tube w/o violating the zone.

Violating the zone would then only make sense if you're fairly certain you can break up a very high scoring logo. As noted previously, there doesn't appear to be a specific rule penalizing you for removal of another team's tube from its rack. Or placement of something else over it.

Depending on future GDC rulings, this would become a sportsmanship issue. On that I would suspect you will get quite a diverse opinion.
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Re: Breaking a logo combination

I personaly would not go for it, for multiple reasons:

1. For starters, that doesn't seem very gracious professional. It seems like just a loophole to not be nice to other teams.

2. You're giving them points that they might not recieve at all.

3. Say your robot could do such a feat. If your robot was that good, it would be much better served just trying to score for your own team.
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