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Old IFI FIRST Control systems.

I have five complete IFI control systems I am looking to part with.

Robot control, operator interface, radios, and other associated hardware.

For those who don't remember this is what they look like... http://ifirobotics.com/frc-robot-con...overview.shtml



Does anyone have any suggestions how much they may be worth or who might need them/have use for them?
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Re: Old IFI FIRST Control systems.

How much? I've been itching to make a robot on my spare time, but I never knew what controller to use.
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Re: Old IFI FIRST Control systems.

Brad, what years are they from? There are differences between the languages and memory they carried, IIRC.
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Re: Old IFI FIRST Control systems.

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How much? I've been itching to make a robot on my spare time, but I never knew what controller to use.
I don't have a set price yet, that's what I posted here for. All I know is that they were worth $1,100 back in the day. I doubt they are even worth half of that today, maybe even a third. PM with what you are willing to pay and maybe we can work out a deal.

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Brad, what years are they from? There are differences between the languages and memory they carried, IIRC.
They are from 2001 through 2006 I believe.

I actually have six systems, but I am missing the robot radio for one. Hopefully I can locate that...

Three of the older systems and three of the new.

I checked the PCB's last night for the new ones (Microchip) and they are labeled as follows: FRC 2005, FRC 2006, and FRC 2006.

I'm not sure why two are marked FRC 2006, but maybe somebody else knows...


Earlier today I sorted the older systems and confirmed them as "matched" sets. Back in the day we had change the team #'s so we could run multiple robots at a time so I know they go together.

Also I have 10+ serial joysticks for these systems.

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Re: Old IFI FIRST Control systems.

The second one labeled FRC 2006 is probably what you got for 2007, since the systems were the same. Unless your team purchased a second set for a practice robot.

The newer ones from 2005 on (pic 8520 & 8722) will be worth more than the older pBasic editions.
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Re: Old IFI FIRST Control systems.

I also have a complete set from 2005 if anyone is interested. The information is sitting in the CD-swap for a while.
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Re: Old IFI FIRST Control systems.

I may be interested in getting a set either for my personal use, or for our team. We got an old IFI system from team 501 and assembled a working robot chassis in the fall. Come off-season they need something to control the 8wd swerve they may build to keep their minds busy!
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Re: Old IFI FIRST Control systems.

As far as I understand it, there were a few different generations of the IFI system:

2000-2002 Original IFI system (BASIC Stamp 2 based)
2003 IFI System (BASIC Stamp 2sx based)
2004 IFI System (Microchip PIC18F8520 based)
2005-2008 IFI System (Microchip PIC18F8722 based)

I might be off on the years (i think the 8520 based model might have been active from 04-05, and 8722 was new in 06), but I believe these to be the 4 variants that exist.
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Re: Old IFI FIRST Control systems.

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The second one labeled FRC 2006 is probably what you got for 2007, since the systems were the same. Unless your team purchased a second set for a practice robot.

The newer ones from 2005 on (pic 8722) will be worth more than the older pBasic editions.
I'm not 100% sure, but I am reasonably sure that the 8722 PIC was 2006 onwards, with an optional upgrade for the 2005 (which originally carried the 8520)

This may also be a product of my absurd desires to correct you at least once in my lifetime.
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Re: Old IFI FIRST Control systems.

You guys are correct.

pic 8520 was for 2004-2005
pic 8722 was for 2006-2008
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Re: Old IFI FIRST Control systems.

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You guys are correct.

pic 8520 was for 2004-2005
pic 8722 was for 2006-2008
Success!

I can go retire on my island now, my life's work is complete.

Personally, those IFI systems are my favorite, I don't need any extra systems now, but I encourage other people to take advantage of this offer and learn some real nitty gritty programming, none of this object oriented stuff
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That's my wife's job and she's very good at it...
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Re: Old IFI FIRST Control systems.

Who wants to make some battle bots?!?!
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Re: Old IFI FIRST Control systems.

kinda hard to find them on ebay...but there is one old set of two black boxes for $60 BIN, item 200570041740 , that no one bought yet.

I like to use ebay completed auctions to "appraise" stuff. It's a crude method, but it is sort of useful.
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