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Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run

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Actually, now that I think about it, I would not be surprised if Winnovation's minibot climbed this fast!
I would, assuming the weight of 2 motors, a battery, and some small bits of aluminum, physics and theory say its going to take at least 2 seconds. this seems to be breaking the laws of physics. I will make a assumption, that there is no battery on board in this video.
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I would, assuming the weight of 2 motors, a battery, and some small bits of aluminum, physics and theory say its going to take at least 2 seconds. this seems to be breaking the laws of physics. I will make a assumption, that there is no battery on board in this video.
Winnovation doesn't break the laws of physics, it just goes around them or makes its own.

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Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run

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Winnovation doesn't break the laws of physics, it just goes around them or makes its own.

Winnovation rejects your reality and substitutes its own.
Haha. Both added to the CD spotlight!
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Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run

DANG!!! That guy in the gray IRI shirt sure is good looking!
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DANG!!! That guy in the gray IRI shirt sure is good looking!
My best guess would say that is you.
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My best guess would say that is you.
You would be correct... lol
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Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run

I'm seriously going to worry the next two weeks about this one. Anyways, awesome minibot guys. Can't wait to really see it when you guys actually unveil everything.
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Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run

it looks like its got 1 motor drive, and no battery attached. it makes sense... Try adding the battery mass and an extra motor because 1 isn't going to cut it once the battery attached.
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Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run

I would quite happily take my 3 second MINIBOT into a Finals match against 1625. There's entirely too much that happens (including some luck) to think that a 2-second MINIBOT is the end of the world. Stop braining your walls (or w/e), calling it cheating, or disseminating what that cord is that looks attached to it. The reality is, it doesn't matter. It's a score differential to make up via strategy, and so long as 4 MINIBOTS climb it's QUITE doable.
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Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run

That is great to see it go up that fast but with that design i see know easy way of deploying it to the bar
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Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run

Why downplay the benefit of a faster minibot?

The time of the entire process, deployment and climb, is what matters. Just because deployment is in there, doesn't mean climb time doesn't count.

A 1.5 second climb will be a huge advantage. Assuming they have similar deployment speeds, they can deploy later and still win. Assuming they have faster deployment speeds, which they likely will, they can deploy much later and still win.

If you disagree, then settle for 3 seconds.
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If you disagree, then settle for 3 seconds.
It's less a matter of 'settling' for 3 seconds and more a matter of our practical inability to attain 2 seconds within the tooling capability and scheduling we have this season. So for us, it's a [time]cost-benefit analysis.

The point was for those who covet the capabilities to quit whining.
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Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run

I think the fastest minibots will be some of the simplest minibots. I don't think you need to have a whole lot of tooling capability to make the minibot in the video.
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I think the fastest minibots will be some of the simplest minibots. I don't think you need to have a whole lot of tooling capability to make the minibot in the video.
I really don't think you need that much of tooling capability either from what i've seen to what we have done to the mini-bot.
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