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View Poll Results: Do you think having The Nationals in Las Vegas is a good idea?
Yes! Las Vegas would be a great place to have the Nationals! 58 30.69%
No! Las Vegas is not a place for FIRST 96 50.79%
Divided/Undecided- I feel that it\'s both a good and a bad idea and/or I don\'t really have a true opinion yet 35 18.52%
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Vegas Baby!

A great location for the nationals would be Las Vegas for a number of reasons. A few reasons are:

1. Cheap to get to- Las Vegas has numerous flights in and out for fairly cheap flights
2. Cheap to stay in- There are many hotels in Las Vegas that offer package deals and such
3- Lots of available venues (aka convention centres)- almost every hotel in Las Vegas have a Convention Centre- it only makes sense!
4- Lots of "extras"- i.e. Amusement Rides, Shopping, (for those of age) casinos
5- One of the best police forces
6- Did I mention that it's fairly cheap to get to/stay in?
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I think that it would be fun. I haven't been to Nevada yet.
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Re: Vegas Baby!

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A great location for the nationals would be Las Vegas for a number of reasons. A few reasons are:

4- Lots of "extras"- i.e. Amusement Rides, Shopping, (for those of age) casinos
I just wanted to address this one item (Surprised?).

Las Vegas doesn't really have all that much to entertain high school aged kids, in my mind. While there are rides scattered about, there's really no more than 20 (high end) in the whole city.

Speed: The Ride
Big Shot
Canyon Blaster
Whatever else is in Grand Slam Canyon
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Manhattan Express
Star Trek: The Experience
3 Simulators in Luxor
Probably a water park or two.

These are spread out considerably. Furthermore, they're very, very expensive. I know, for example, that Manhattan Express (an awful coaster by all accounts) is $10 per ride.

Shopping isn't that exciting, and I love to shop. Maybe that's just me, though.

Vegas made a significant attempt at catering to families in the mid 90's, and we saw the opening of many 'themed' hotels, like the MGM Grand and Excalibur. Now, though, those have given way toward more adult-oriented experiences such as the Belagio and Venetian Resorts. Never mind the gambling, drinking, and prostitution - all good stuff I'm sure Dean loves.

Does anyone know the square footage of the Epcot tent? I'm curious to see how other convention facilities measure up.
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You know, another post like this was deleted because it was repeated in another thread.

BTW, all of your "reasons" are all false by many accounts.
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I think you could entertain most geeks with just the Star Trek ride (or at least this geek)
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I like the idea, of course it was my idea.

Vegas has food, and lots of food..

it can be summed up: Buffet

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Las Vegas - Not the greatest city, in my opinion. Why don't they put a regional in some other state, like Colorado, Utah... Indiana
But Las Vegas is just not the greatest place for a FIRST event to take place, with all the prostitution and stuff, it's sickening. Oh sure there are some cool things to see. But that's just it, all you can do is look. It's mostly all Casinos! Hmmmm... but I accidentally voted for the Yes option.... oh well.
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well las vegas may not be my favorite city but are you guys going to the same las vegas as me? because i've been there many times, only a few hour car ride away, and i don't see prostitutes swarming the streets. its not that bad!

But yeah, there's not that much to do especially if you've been there once. I mean, I'm 18 and that's still not legal enough to do most stuff and I LOVE shopping but the stores are so overpriced boutiques.

addition agreeing with tim's comment below: yes, there is just as much crime in any big city that you go to. when we were had free nights after the seattle competition we saw soooo many drug transitions go on right infront of us! it was very weird for us kids in the perfect model suburbia but its everywhere.
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A *LOT* of people think that Las Vegas is just full of prostitutes and drug dealers waiting to prey on drunks and casino go-ers. There are these types of people (Prostitutes, Druggies, ect) in every city- but almost NEVER right out in the open. Las Vegas has one of the best police forces, and most of this activity is kept in check.
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To my knowledge, street prostitution is just as illegal in Nevada as it is in any other state. Conceptually, I have no problem with prostitution, just as I have no problem with minor drug use ("recreational" might be a good way to describe it).

As for the original question, as I said in another thread, if FIRST decides to hold Championships in Las Vegas I would not attend. I don't think Las Vegas is any kind of atmosphere for FIRST, being, in my humble opinion, a rather progressive organization. The kinds of values and actions promoted and glorified in Las Vegas utterly disgust me (decadence, greed, gambling).

Yeah, that's pretty much it, for me. I'd choose Disney World over Vegas, any day of the week.
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Some of your responses are rather harsh. I was jsut stating my opinion...
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Destructive vs. Constructive

I've been to Vegas 2 months ago and there wern't prostatutes, but porn and other things being handed out. Gambiling is promanent at all casinos and everything is overpriced (wanna get entertained for an hour and a half? pony up $100 per).

Plus, the main method of transportation is walking, Segway or not.

It won't and will never work. Nor will it happen as long as Dean loves FIRST.
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The thing I hated when I went to Vegas were this people lined up on the streets handing out papers with pornography and all sorts of disgusting material on them. And the worst part was there were like 6 of them lined up in a row all trying to give people stuff I just wanted to say get a real job (I assume that's a job right? I mean, why else would they be doing it).
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Re: Re: Vegas Baby!

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I think it would be TERRIBLE to have the nationals in Las Vegas! If there is nothing bad about that place then why is Las Vegas nicknamed "Sin City"?There r so many different places 2 go 2 that would be a lot safer. Why go there?
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