Picking up a tube in opponent's Safe Zone

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by 2611.Shooter

For example, my team got yellowcarded in qualification for "egrarious robot conduct" and we were one of the top picks for finals.

I probably wouldn't pick a team playing penalty-worthy defense consistently.

[Wayne TenBrink]

What is the "GP" difference between intentionally violating your opponents' safe zone to retrieve a game piece, and intentionally violating your opponents' safe zone to bump a robot that was trying to hang a critical, logo-completing game piece? How much more "egregious" is one than the other?

BTW, as I interpret <G32> as of Update 4, it would be legal to pick up a tube that was lying partially in the safe zone, as long as your robot didn't break the plane and you were quick about it.

[gbrettmiller]

Originally Posted by Wayne TenBrink

What is the "GP" difference between intentionally violating your opponents' safe zone to retrieve a game piece, and intentionally violating your opponents' safe zone to bump a robot that was trying to hang a critical, logo-completing game piece? How much more "egregious" is one than the other?

BTW, as I interpret <G32> as of Update 4, it would be legal to pick up a tube that was lying partially in the safe zone, as long as your robot didn't break the plane and you were quick about it.

As of Team Update #6, bumping an opposing robot in their zone, or lane for that matter, will get you a RED CARD. I would say reach in at your own peril.

Picking up a game piece that it only partially in the zone or lane would be fine as long as you don't break the plane.

[craigcd]

Martin 417, Alpha Beta and Dave were right. Take the penalty and go for the points. Taking chances is what make this country great.

[nitneylion452]

This will get you a yellow card, as per Team Update 6. It says that you can't knowingly take a penalty in order to gain a competitive advantage.

Also, if you were to try and get a piece that was partially in the opponent's zone, you would be penalized once you possessed the piece because neither your robot nor a possessed game piece can break the plane of the safe zone.

[gbrettmiller]

Originally Posted by nitneylion452

This will get you a yellow card, as per Team Update 6. It says that you can't knowingly take a penalty in order to gain a competitive advantage.

I believe that the update to <G32> and <G33> in update 6 result in a YELLOW CARD only for those specific instances, not for all cases of "knowingly taking a penalty".

Also, if you were to try and get a piece that was partially in the opponent's zone, you would be penalized once you possessed the piece because neither your robot nor a possessed game piece can break the plane of the safe zone.

Excellent point. I guess it all comes down to what the refs consider a "momentary incursion".

[martin417]

Originally Posted by nitneylion452

This will get you a yellow card, as per Team Update 6. It says that you can't knowingly take a penalty in order to gain a competitive advantage.

Also, if you were to try and get a piece that was partially in the opponent's zone, you would be penalized once you possessed the piece because neither your robot nor a possessed game piece can break the plane of the safe zone.

I don't see it. I read,and re-read the update. nowhere does it state that knowingly getting a penalty will result in a yellow card. Can you quote the rule that states this?

[2611.Shooter]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

I probably wouldn't pick a team playing penalty-worthy defense consistently.

We only did this once, our robot tipped over 2 really top-heavy ones. just saying that it emphasized our traction, not that they picked us for our ability to tip others over. And we were by far the best defender.