Deploying the minibot!!

[~piangere~]

I have a question about the last part of the game ,when deploying the minibot can the hostbot contact the tower directly , or should it send the robot from a distance???? if so what is the distant exactly ??

[Duke461]

The Hostbot can make contact with the tower, but:
<G20> ROBOTS/HOSTBOTS may not contact their own TOWERS above the DEPLOYMENT LINE.
Violation: PENALTY for contact. TOWER is disabled if MINIBOT is DEPLOYED above the
DEPLOYMENT LINE.

[jamie_1930]

Originally Posted by ~piangere~

I have a question about the last part of the game ,when deploying the minibot can the hostbot contact the tower directly , or should it send the robot from a distance???? if so what is the distant exactly ??

You should be touching the tower. If you increase the distance you are to the pole you will make it harder to deploy, and there is no rule against touching the tower so why not be right up against it?

[Waffles]

http://team2502.com/uploads/rules/3-Game.pdf

Manual. Use it.

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by Waffles

http://team2502.com/uploads/rules/3-Game.pdf

Manual. Use it.

Don't use that version of the manual - it's 6 revisions out of date!

The most current version of the manual can always be found here: http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...nt.aspx?id=452

[Waffles]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

Don't use that version of the manual - it's 6 revisions out of date!

The most current version of the manual can always be found here: http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...nt.aspx?id=452

Thanks.

[mentarded]

Can the minibot touch the tower above the deployment line if it is still in contact with the hostbot? Meaning ...the minibot would drop from a higher level and then start below the deployment line as the hostbot disconnects? Does this refer to in future tense Read the manual, considering I have Read the manual.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by mentarded

Can the minibot touch the tower above the deployment line if it is still in contact with the hostbot? Meaning ...the minibot would drop from a higher level and then start below the deployment line as the hostbot disconnects? Does this refer to in future tense Read the manual, considering I have Read the manual.

Actually, refers to reading the Manual the right way.

The right way is to read the most current version, and read the Q&A to determine if your interpretation is correct.

In this case, No. The Minibot cannot break that deployment line while in contact with the Hostbot. See <G22>, as amended by Team Update #7.

[mentarded]

Therefore, a radial angular descent, from a servo, while deploying the minibot would be acceptable as long as the minibot does not touch the tube... or are we to understand the tower implies the vertical plane of the base ? until the minibot is below the line? We need the gravitational force of a falling deployment arm to assist in engaging the minibot to the tower.

[EricH]

If the Minibot goes above the Deployment Line while the Hostbot is contacting the Minibot, the tower will be disabled. That is the rule. There is no "while the Hostbot is contacting the tower".

If you need that gravitational force, you will need to be able to apply it--all of it--while the Minibot remains in the 18" between the Deployment Line and the Base of the Tower.

[Chris Fultz]

Originally Posted by mentarded

Therefore, a radial angular descent, from a servo, while deploying the minibot would be acceptable as long as the minibot does not touch the tube... or are we to understand the tower implies the vertical plane of the base ? until the minibot is below the line? We need the gravitational force of a falling deployment arm to assist in engaging the minibot to the tower.

I think this is your question - You approach the tower from the side. Your minibot deployment mechanism forms an arc, from the hostbot to tower. This arc allows the mnibot to be above the 18" deployment line. Your minibot does not touch the tower until it is below the 18 line.

My perception is that this is legal. You cannot touch the tower above the 18" line. The rule does not say you cannot break the plane that is formed by the 18" line. If it did, the only deployment option would be a straight horizontal launch to the bar.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Chris Fultz

I think this is your question - You approach the tower from the side. Your minibot deployment mechanism forms an arc, from the hostbot to tower. This arc allows the mnibot to be above the 18" deployment line. Your minibot does not touch the tower until it is below the 18 line.

My perception is that this is legal. You cannot touch the tower above the 18" line. The rule does not say you cannot break the plane that is formed by the 18" line. If it did, the only deployment option would be a straight horizontal launch to the bar.

Chris, I think the Q&A disagrees with you.

http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=16251

[mentarded]

An arcing deployment system is what we are trying to achieve.
Deployment has multiple explanations, based on the method. In our case it is a gravity induced arc that will engage the bot. The question is when does the deployment line become effective, before the minibot is attached to the post? Or after the minibot is attached to the post?
The tower consists of the post and the base. The deployment line is on the post.
Is the horizontal plane and the vertical plane of the deployment line and tower base a defined zone of no entry unless we are beneath the deployment line?

"I've got vision and the rest of the world is wearing bifocals."
Butch Cassidy

[nitneylion452]

Originally Posted by mentarded

An arcing deployment system is what we are trying to achieve.
Deployment has multiple explanations, based on the method. In our case it is a gravity induced arc that will engage the bot. The question is when does the deployment line become effective, before the minibot is attached to the post? Or after the minibot is attached to the post?
The tower consists of the post and the base. The deployment line is on the post.
Is the horizontal plane and the vertical plane of the deployment line and tower base a defined zone of no entry unless we are beneath the deployment line?

"I've got vision and the rest of the world is wearing bifocals."
Butch Cassidy

Please see the Q&A EricH posted above.

[mentarded]

I get it . Yes, no!