Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run

[cire]

I believe this video has inspired a lot of people, thanks!

[xSAWxBLADEx]

every year 1625 inspires me in some way last year the 6 wheel swivel 2 years ago the super cell hook this year 1.5 second minibot good job 1625 winnovation

[EFastring]

You have to remember, defense is going to play a big role in minibot deployment.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that 1 second, 1.5 seconds, or 2.0 seconds to climb the tower isn't going to make a whole lot of difference compared to the total amount of deployment time, which will likely include positioning your robot after defensive robots have been slamming into you right up until the start of the end game.

IMO a robot that can accurately and quickly get a minibot onto the pole from a less than ideal starting HOST-bot position will be the consistent winner of the race.

[thefro526]

I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that Winnovation's deployment mechanism will probably work flawlessly.

They aren't exactly the kind of people that would build one of the fastest minibots and then cheap out on the deployment.

[EFastring]

I wasn't commenting on their deployment mechanism. Just trying to play down the importance of shaving 1/2 second off the climb time of the minibot for those who might think that they have no chance because their minibot takes 2-3 seconds to climb the pole. I don't think in the grand scheme of things, climb rate is going to play that large a role in the minibot race compared to all of the other things that have to happen.

[pfreivald]

Originally Posted by EFastring

I wasn't commenting on their deployment mechanism. Just trying to play down the importance of shaving 1/2 second off the climb time of the minibot for those who might think that they have no chance because their minibot takes 2-3 seconds to climb the pole. I don't think in the grand scheme of things, climb rate is going to play that large a role in the minibot race compared to all of the other things that have to happen.

It seems to me that all you need to do is position yourself in your LANE and square up on the TOWER while thus safely ensconced, and then your opponent CANNOT defend against your MINIBOT DEPLOYMENT, because if they enter into your LANE and then touch another ROBOT (e.g., yours), then they get a RED CARD.

[kbrowncny]

it looks like its got 1 motor drive, and no battery attached. it makes sense... Try adding the battery mass and an extra motor because 1 isn't going to cut it once the battery attached.

[JesseK]

I would quite happily take my 3 second MINIBOT into a Finals match against 1625. There's entirely too much that happens (including some luck) to think that a 2-second MINIBOT is the end of the world. Stop braining your walls (or w/e), calling it cheating, or disseminating what that cord is that looks attached to it. The reality is, it doesn't matter. It's a score differential to make up via strategy, and so long as 4 MINIBOTS climb it's QUITE doable.

[JP Carlin]

That is great to see it go up that fast but with that design i see know easy way of deploying it to the bar

[AdamHeard]

Why downplay the benefit of a faster minibot?

The time of the entire process, deployment and climb, is what matters. Just because deployment is in there, doesn't mean climb time doesn't count.

A 1.5 second climb will be a huge advantage. Assuming they have similar deployment speeds, they can deploy later and still win. Assuming they have faster deployment speeds, which they likely will, they can deploy much later and still win.

If you disagree, then settle for 3 seconds.

[JesseK]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

If you disagree, then settle for 3 seconds.

It's less a matter of 'settling' for 3 seconds and more a matter of our practical inability to attain 2 seconds within the tooling capability and scheduling we have this season. So for us, it's a [time]cost-benefit analysis.

The point was for those who covet the capabilities to quit whining.

[Chris27]

I think the fastest minibots will be some of the simplest minibots. I don't think you need to have a whole lot of tooling capability to make the minibot in the video.

[Daniel_LaFleur]

Originally Posted by pfreivald

It seems to me that all you need to do is position yourself in your LANE and square up on the TOWER while thus safely ensconced, and then your opponent CANNOT defend against your MINIBOT DEPLOYMENT, because if they enter into your LANE and then touch another ROBOT (e.g., yours), then they get a RED CARD.

2 things:

1> you need to get there (and defense can keep you out)

and

2> There's others on your alliance that can be defended against. (I'll take 2 of our alliances minibots against 1 of you alliances)

[pfreivald]

Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur

2 things:

1> you need to get there (and defense can keep you out)

and

2> There's others on your alliance that can be defended against. (I'll take 2 of our alliances minibots against 1 of you alliances)

Wait, you mean to tell me there are counter-strategies to my strategies?!?!????

[vigkvagkv2]

Some people here seem to be deviating from the spirit of gracious professionalism here. For those of you who are whining about not being able to do it, put the time of you complaining into effort and ingenuity. pfreivald, you're being an amazing example to us by pouring that competitive and creative spark ignited from this video into something productive.

For those of you who are debating the usefulness of a quick mini-bot, that's not the purpose of this section of the forums. If that's what you want to do, go to the strategy section. I'm sure there's something there for you. Stop downplaying their achievement, because whatever you may think about the usefulness of a fast mini-bot, that doesn't change the fact that this was amazingly done.

As for me, I'm going to sit back and appreciate true effort and ingenuity at work, and congratulate Team 1625's success at making a truly marvelous piece of machinery and become inspired to work harder. Good work guys. Keep up the amazing work.