toughest regional in 2011?

[thefro526]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

I dunno - Waterloo still has 1305, 1310, 2200, and 2609 to mix things up. It'd take one hell of an upset to get to the #1 seed but it could happen.

Even if 1114 and 2056 got on the #1 Alliance, any two of the teams you listed could pull off an upset with enough skill, strategy and luck.

[Racer26]

Its definitely possible for 1114 and 2056 to be upset, as 2009 GTR Finals (188, 610, 1305 v 2056, 1114, 2185) very nearly demonstrated. Easily one of the most fantastic Finals I've watched in years, if a bit controversial.

Both of them play a top notch game, and they've proven time and again that outseeding both of them is a task not easily accomplished. Looking forward to competition season, I want to see what robots everyone's come up with.

[Nick Lawrence]

Toronto.

No questions asked.

-Nick

[Racer26]

Anybody up for running the BBQ/SAUCE numbers for 2011 Regional entry lists?

[dodar]

Ok, I've heard people talking about this stuff for years now. When people talk about a regionals BBQ number do they mean like their OPR or past experience for all teams attending or what?

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by dodar

Ok, I've heard people talking about this stuff for years now. When people talk about a regionals BBQ number do they mean like their OPR or past experience for all teams attending or what?

The best BBQ will be at the Smokey Mountain regional! I wish I could go!

/obligatory

[iVanDuzer]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

I dunno - Waterloo still has 1305, 1310, 2200, and 2609 to mix things up. It'd take one hell of an upset to get to the #1 seed but it could happen.

It's definitely possible: 2609 seeded first in Waterloo 2009 over 2056 and went on to become regional champs. Last year, 1310 and 1305 teamed up in Waterloo and only lost to an alliance with 2 Einstein robots by 3 points in the finals. A week later 1305 did the same thing in the GTR semifinals (except by 4 points), with the score actually being even until the endgame.
(1305 also became semi-finalists on Galileo last year, upsetting 1717's alliance in the quarters)

The Canadian regionals are often overlooked but are tremendously competitive all the same (2009 GTR Finals, anyone?). I'm glad that they're getting a lot of publicity now.

That being said, I'm particularly looking forward to Midwest and Silicon Valley south of the border.

[Racer26]

Originally Posted by dodar

Ok, I've heard people talking about this stuff for years now. When people talk about a regionals BBQ number do they mean like their OPR or past experience for all teams attending or what?

BBQ = Blue Banner Quotient
SAUCE = Sextuple Advancement Uniform Counting Era

A regional's BBQ is The number of blue banners earned by all teams in attendance, divided by the number of teams in attendance. It is intended to be a gauge by which to measure the power of the teams in attendance at a given regional.

A regional's SAUCE only counts blue banners earned since 2005, when 3v3 play started.

Blue banners are earned for Regional Chairman's Award, and Regional Champion teams. Each regional awards 4 blue banners per season (5 if the winning alliance called in a backup bot). The CMP Divisions award 3 banners each, for Division Champion, and CMP awards 3 blue banners for einstein champions, and 1 for Championship Chairmans. I'm unsure of how banners are awarded in MI's district model (mostly regarding CA's)

[Racer26]

If my counts are correct (i fixed a couple errors in FIRSTs data):

Waterloo BBQ: 44/30 = 1.46667
Waterloo SAUCE: 39/30 = 1.3

Teams:

216: 1 Blue Banner
244: 0 (Non-rookie new team)
288: 0
610: 2 Blue banners (0 since 2005)
781: 1 Blue banner (0 since 2005)
843: 1 Blue banner
854: 0
865: 2 Blue banners (1 since 2005)
907: 0
1075: 0
1114: 21 Blue banners (20 since 2005)
1219: 0
1241: 2 Blue banners
1305: 4 Blue banners
1310: 0
1312: 0
1325: 0
1334: 0
1535: 0
1846: 0
2056: 9 Blue banners
2200: 0
2361: 0
2609: 1 Blue banner
2625: 0
2702: 0
3161: 0
3396: 0
3683: 0 (rookie)
3756: 0 (rookie)

Its worth noting that 1114 represents more than half of Waterloo's SAUCE.

[Doug G]

Silicon Valley:

BBQ: 56/56 = 1.0
SAUCE: 40/56 = .714

[bam-bam]

I say......

BOILERMAKER REGIONAL! =DDD

I wish.

[EagleEngineer]

i have to agree that San Diego is going to be one of the top competitions in the world. 987 is going to have a world championship robot, considering they won in 2007, and 254 is going for a world championship win this year. It going to be a tough competition.

[Racer26]

GTR BBQ/SAUCEs

East:

BBQ: 38/36 = 1.05556
SAUCE: 33/36 = 0.91667

188: 4 Blue Banners (2 since 2005)
296: 3 Blue banners
467: 1 Blue banner (0 since 2005)
886: 0
907: 0
919: 0
1006: 3 Blue banners (2 since 2005)
1009: 0 (returning after a FIVE YEAR hiatus)!
1075: 0
1114: 21 Blue banners (20 since 2005)
1241: 2 Blue banners
1246: 0
1404: 0
1482: 0
1503: 3 Blue banners (all from 2006, w/1114)
1514: 0
1815: 0
2198: 0
2200: 0
2609: 1 Blue banner
2625: 0
2626: 0
2670: 0
3040: 0
3117: 0
3360: 0
3379: 0
3386: 0
3527: 0 (rookie)
3530: 0 (rookie)
3532: 0 (rookie)
3544: 0 (rookie)
3560: 0 (rookie)
3563: 0 (rookie)
3698: 0 (rookie)
3705: 0 (rookie)


West:

BBQ: 23/36 = 0.63889
SAUCE: 19/36 = 0.52778

610: 2 Blue banners (0 since 2005)
771: 2 Blue Banners (not 3 as frclinks.com/t/771 might suggest - Thanks Karthik!)
772: 0
781: 1 Blue banner (0 since 2005)
854: 0
865: 2 Blue banners (1 since 2005)
1053: 0
1219: 0
1221: 0
1305: 4 Blue banners
1310: 0
1325: 0
1334: 0
1547: 3 Blue banners
1835: 0
1846: 0
2056: 9 Blue banners
2076: 0
2386: 0
2634: 0
2809: 0
2852: 0
2935: 0
3161: 0
3382: 0
3387: 0
3531: 0 (rookie)
3533: 0 (rookie)
3541: 0 (rookie)
3543: 0 (rookie)
3550: 0 (rookie)
3571: 0 (rookie)
3590: 0 (rookie)
3664: 0 (rookie)
3710: 0 (rookie)
3739: 0 (rookie)

with a combined 18 rookies making up 25% of the field, this should be interesting. According to BBQ and SAUCE, the EAST should be the harder of the two halves, but once again, 1114 accounts for more than half the BBQ and nearly 2/3rds of the SAUCE.

And in case you were wondering:

Combined GTR:
BBQ: 61/72 = 0.84722
SAUCE: 52/72 = 0.72222


EDIT: a side note: it seems to me there a significant number of vets missing here. 2505 comes to mind right off the bat.

[Lil' Lavery]

Too much hyping of your own regional going on in here.

[big1boom]

After manually going through the FIRST data ( I might have missed a couple)

MIDWEST
BBQ 1.653846154
SAUCE 1.192307692

Team Number Blue Banners since 2005(pre2005)
16 5(6)
45 5(4)
71 10(8)
101 0
111 9(4)
118 6(2)
135 0
896 0
1091 0

8th year
1367 0

7th year
1625 8
1675 1

6th year
1732 2
1739 0
1781 0
1850 1

5th year
1987 3
2022 0
2041 2
2115 0
2136 0
2151 0
2171 2
2194 2

4th year
2338 0
2358 0
2410 1
2432 0
2462 0

3rd year
2704 0
2709 0
2725 0
2769 0
2781 0
2803 0
2826 1
2949 0
3061 0
3067 0
3110 0

2nd year
3135 0
3177 0
3197 0
3352 1
3416 0

Rookies
3488 0
3494 0
3595 0
3612 0
3646 0
3695 0
3779 0

EDIT:
Updated team 16