toughest regional in 2011?

[Meredith Novak]

Originally Posted by big1boom

After manually going through the FIRST data ( I might have missed a couple)

Midwest BBQ=1.519
Midwest SAUCE=1.115

Team Number Blue Banners since 2005(pre2005)
16 4(3)

Team 16 has 11 total banners including 5 since 2005. So 5(6) would be correct.

[TEE]

Originally Posted by EricH

The reason the MI State Championship doesn't count is because it's a championship, not a regional. If the MI teams are going to take MSC as a regional, then I'll go ahead and take the Archimedes, Curie, Galileo, Newton, and Einstein--especially Einstein--"regionals" as toughest.

In the last two years, the Michigan State Championship has seemed more competitive than the four divisions at the World Championship to me

Honestly though, there are a ton of teams at the world championship that do not qualify, and do not perform as well as the top teams. (I remember because they make scouting a pain)

[TEE]

Originally Posted by Patrick Seeney

Any regional featuring 469 is going to be tough ...we got some tricks up our sleeves that will be revealed at our first district event!

Again? O.O

[big1boom]

Originally Posted by Meredith Novak

Team 16 has 11 total banners including 5 since 2005. So 5(6) would be correct.

Thanks for the correction. If anyone else notices a correction, please post or PM me.

MIDWEST
BBQ 1.653846154
SAUCE 1.192307692

[Koko Ed]

Total overall in parenthesis.
I counted EI which is a banner award.
FLR BBQ:1.705
FLR Sauce: 1.295
73 = 0 (1)
145 = 0
156 (rookie)
174 = 4
188 = 2 (3)
191 = 2 (4)
211 = 0
217 = 17 (18)
229 = 1 (2)
250 = 1
340 = 7(11)
578 = 0 (1)
639 = 1
716 = 1(2)
843 = 1
1075 = 0
1126 = 3(6)
1153 = 0
1405 = 0(1)
1450 = 1
1511 = 8
1518 = 0
1528 = 0
1551 = 1
1559 = 0
1585 = 0
1591 = 0
1640 = 0
1765 = 0
2053 = 0
2056 = 9
2228 = 0
2340 = 0
2852 = 0
2994 = 0
3003 = 0
3015 = 0
3157 = 0
3173 = 0
3181 = 0
3613 (rookie)
3799 (rookie)
3838 (rookie)
3842 (rookie)

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

I counted EI which is a banner award.

As of last year this isn't true.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

As of last year this isn't true.

Considering that it earns you a trip to the championship it should still count as a Blue Banner award.

[Henry Williams]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

As of last year this isn't true.

Yeah, I wish it was but no banner for 461 last year...

[big1boom]

So for the BBQ/SAUCE, blue banners are
1) Regional Winner
2) Regional Chairmans
3) Division Champion
4) World Champion
5) Championship Chairmans

Anything else?

[XaulZan11]

Assuming that we are talking about toughest regional to become Regional Champion, does it make sense to include chairmans or any other non-regional/divison/world championship blue banner?

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

Considering that it earns you a trip to the championship it should still count as a Blue Banner award.

Rookie All Star also does not give you a banner.

The BBQ is defined as things that give you a Blue Banner - I don't see why it should be less simple than that.

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

Rookie All Star also does not give you a banner.

The BBQ is defined as things that give you a Blue Banner - I don't see why it should be less simple than that.

Because it is almost like second place Chairmans and is still not an easy task to achieve!

[Chris is me]

Neither is Rookie All Star, or Regional Finalist...

The metric is named "Blue Banner Quotient" - using something other than blue banners with it is inaccurate and confusing.

[XaulZan11]

Question: Are we talking about toughest regional to win on the field with your robot, or toughest regional to win chairmans? If it is the former, using all blue banners is not the best idea. I think giving 2 points for winning regional and 1 point for finalist (or something similar) would lead to much more accurate results instead of counting something (chairmans award) that is completely illrelevent.

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

Neither is Rookie All Star, or Regional Finalist...

The metric is named "Blue Banner Quotient" - using something other than blue banners with it is inaccurate and confusing.

But they were a blue banner which is still counted in the 2005-2009 season.