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Re: Thoughts on new US FIRST splash page?

I just sent the following in an email to my FLL Partner Services Manager:

"Please don’t label me one of the complainers, but would you please pass on my concern with the new flash page at usfirst.org? It features a music personality whose music is not allowed at our events.

I have an FLL team going on television to promote FLL Saturday. I have just instructed them to avoid mentioning the site and direct interested people to our Arkansas FLL site. This is a Christian home school team (as are a lot of ours here) and I know the parents would not be thrilled with this personality as a role model.

We are having a small tournament Saturday at a science museum to promote FLL and I am appearing before a group of 400 home schoolers as well as the Education Committee of the Arkansas State Senate in the next few days. The current website portal would not be a positive thing for any of these audiences and I am in the position of having to avoid using the site altogether or offering some sort of explanation.

I was in Manchester and thought Will.I.Am appearing at kick-off was fun for the older kids and exciting to some, I guess. But my audience is corporate CEOs, government officials, school superintendents and parents in a conservative state.

I can still use a link to the information sections of the website in my emails, but all of my cards, documentation, etc. have the usfirst address on them."


If this was really about changing the culture, FIRST would be on Will.I.Am's website.
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Re: Thoughts on new US FIRST splash page?

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It features a music personality whose music is not allowed at our events.
So who did not get the memo?????
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Re: Thoughts on new US FIRST splash page?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc

will.i.am in the Black Eyed Peas in "Where is the Love?"

In any case, the lyrics to most of his songs are pretty tame.
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Re: Thoughts on new US FIRST splash page?

Did a quick search and didn't see this, but if you type http://www.usfirst.org/default.aspx, it will take you directly to the old homepage.

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Re: Thoughts on new US FIRST splash page?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc

will.i.am in the Black Eyed Peas in "Where is the Love?"

In any case, the lyrics to most of his songs are pretty tame.
But what if a FIRST student (FLL, FTC, FRC) sees the page, wants to learn more about Will.i.am and comes across some of his or the Black Eyed Peas inaproprait songs (which there are certainy some)? I don't want to think what a middle school FLL student would think of some of those songs, let alone their parents.
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Did a quick search and didn't see this, but if you type http://www.usfirst.org/default.aspx, it will take you directly to the old homepage.
I can find the "real" information. But saying, "go to usfirst dot org and click on the FLL button" to a crowd is a bit easier than "go to usfirst dot org slash default dot aspx."
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Re: Thoughts on new US FIRST splash page?

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I can find the "real" information. But saying, "go to usfirst dot org and click on the FLL button" to a crowd is a bit easier than "go to usfirst dot org slash default dot aspx."

I don't doubt your ability to find the information you need, but I do believe that you are not a very big fan of the new page. This is just a way to avoid ever having to see it.

P.S. This link could also be useful for the next week in emails to those who you want to see FIRST as a professional organization. Just a thought
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But what if a FIRST student (FLL, FTC, FRC) sees the page, wants to learn more about Will.i.am and comes across some of his or the Black Eyed Peas inaproprait songs (which there are certainy some)? I don't want to think what a middle school FLL student would think of some of those songs, let alone their parents.
Maybe it doesn't matter to the folks who have made this decision and put it in motion.

*shrugs*

I'm thinking about the part of Dr. Flowers speech at Kick Off with the arrows.

Popular Culture had an arrow pointing down and FIRST Culture had an arrow pointing up. I'll be sticking w/Dr. Flowers arrows and not getting lost in the confusion of spinning arrows, even 'temporarily'.

Jane

P.S. Meredith's point about a FIRST link being on will.i.am's website is spot on.
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I don't doubt your ability to find the information you need, but I do believe that you are not a very big fan of the new page. This is just a way to avoid ever having to see it.

P.S. This link could also be useful for the next week in emails to those who you want to see FIRST as a professional organization. Just a thought
Sorry to sound snippy. I am not squemish about the page; I am not in need of having my sensibilities protected. I am squemish about including it in the presentation I am currently preparing for a group of senators.

It is just flat-out not professional.
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Re: Thoughts on new US FIRST splash page?

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If this was really about changing the culture, FIRST would be on Will.I.Am's website.
Brilliant! Well said.
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Re: Thoughts on new US FIRST splash page?

I think the splash page is just up for the people who will see Will.i.am wear the FIRST hat and wonder what it is all about. They will see the "splashy video" when they check it out. I read somewhere it is just for the weekend, I think in Bill's Blog. That is just my 2 cents!!
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I just sent the following in an email to my FLL Partner Services Manager:

"Please don’t label me one of the complainers, but would you please pass on my concern with the new flash page at usfirst.org? It features a music personality whose music is not allowed at our events.

I have an FLL team going on television to promote FLL Saturday. I have just instructed them to avoid mentioning the site and direct interested people to our Arkansas FLL site. This is a Christian home school team (as are a lot of ours here) and I know the parents would not be thrilled with this personality as a role model.

We are having a small tournament Saturday at a science museum to promote FLL and I am appearing before a group of 400 home schoolers as well as the Education Committee of the Arkansas State Senate in the next few days. The current website portal would not be a positive thing for any of these audiences and I am in the position of having to avoid using the site altogether or offering some sort of explanation.

I was in Manchester and thought Will.I.Am appearing at kick-off was fun for the older kids and exciting to some, I guess. But my audience is corporate CEOs, government officials, school superintendents and parents in a conservative state.

I can still use a link to the information sections of the website in my emails, but all of my cards, documentation, etc. have the usfirst address on them."


If this was really about changing the culture, FIRST would be on Will.I.Am's website.
I love everything in this post, especially the last part!

I understand the audiences you are talking about and agree that pointing them to the splash page is not a good idea.
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Re: Thoughts on new US FIRST splash page?

Included in a message from FIRST Marketing: "The site will go back to its original homepage sometime next week."
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Re: Thoughts on new US FIRST splash page?

My feelings on the splash page have been adequately summed up by virtually everyone else in the thread. It does seem contradictory to FIRST's mission to change the culture away from one that values entertainment over scientific merit.

However, consider the timing of the change. The splash page shows up earlier this week, and from what Meredith said, it sounds like it'll be reverted at some point next week. What major event involving will.i.am is occurring soon that could leverage his involvement with FIRST to reach hundreds of millions of people...

It may be wishful thinking, but if he does plan to namedrop FIRST at some point during the Super Bowl half time show, having something as the splash page temporarily to highlight his involvement may not be a bad thing. Of course, the key word there is temporarily.


Edit: Just read Karthik's post on the previous page. Don't know how I missed that, but he explains it well.
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