Scouting sheet input requested

[XaulZan11]

Originally Posted by BJC

we like to use scale of 1 2 3 4 5 (circle one) to judge things like speed, driver precision, tube pick up speed, and other qualitative yet important bits of data. We have found that although people judge the scale differently when you put all of a perticular robot's scouting reports togeather it gives a fairly clear idea of what that robot can do.. anyway, it's better than "fast- (yes) (no)."

Be sure your not mistaking Precision for Accuracy. Being able to say "This team on average has a speed rating of 3.54" is still based on the biased perception of the scouts.

In terms of the sheet, what about teams that fetch tubes (ie pick up tubes and drop them into the home zone for other teams to score)? For our scouting sheets, I'm thinking about keeping track of the number of tubes brought into the home zone (even if they are scored or just 'fetched'), but that could get redundent.

I doubt our scouting sheets will have the mini-bot place (1st through 4th) because that is heavily dependent on partners and opponents mini-bot speed. I think we will keep track of time it takes for the mini bot to reach the top from the time the robot touches the tower.

For autonomous, you can make it a little easier and say "Where did they score (circle one): top, middle, bottom, none".

I think the "Approximate time takes to score tube" will be shown in the number of tubes scored. I think you could get rid of that and make it eaiser on the scouts.

A minor thing, in the tele-op box, I would re-order the items so the mini-bot stuff is all at the end, so the scout can just go right down the list.

Another tip that we have done the last few years, for things that teams will do several of (like score tubes, score balls last year, laps in 2008...), we have put little numbers on the sheet that the scout checks off during the match. Its a lot easier than trying to count on your hands, especially when there are several things your keeping track of.

Overall though, I think this is a very good scouting sheet!

[BJC]

Originally Posted by XaulZan11

Be sure your not mistaking Precision for Accuracy. Being able to say "This team on average has a speed rating of 3.54" is still based on the biased perception of the scouts.

Just to clarify my above post:

I would consider Precision how well the drivers drive. Although it is not easily defined it is very apparent which robots are well driven and which are not.

I consider Accuracy how precise the drivers need to drive to be successful. For example this year if you have a roller claw to pick up tubes off the ground you generally need to be less accurate then if you are picking tubes using the inside hole.

and Yes, the 12345 metric can be bias, however, it is not used to find a average. It is instead a tool for scouters to consider when making a pick list. It is not perfect, however despite all flaws it has worked amazingly well for our team. Combined with all the other scouting info it gives a great general idea of how good a team is at said function.

[XaulZan11]

Originally Posted by BJC

I would consider Precision how well the drivers drive. Although it is not easily defined it is very apparent which robots are well driven and which are not.

I consider Accuracy how precise the drivers need to drive to be successful. For example this year if you have a roller claw to pick up tubes off the ground you generally need to be less accurate then if you are picking tubes using the inside hole.

I was talking about Precision and Accuracy in the statistical/numbers sense, not in the robotics sense. Basically, precision does not mean accuracy. I can say there are "1,002,353,234,354,787" grains of sand on a beach and be very Precise, but still be innacurate. On the other hand, I can say there are over 1 billion grains of sand. I wouldn't be Precise but I'd be Accurate. Obviously the key is to balance precision and accuracy.

Back to the robotics, by putting a number on the speed/driving ability/pickup speed, you are precise, but not necessarily accurate. I think people have a tendency to see precision (a number) and assume it is accurate.

[Wildcat]

attached below are the most recent updates of my sheets

[Sue-San]

That is a pretty nice scouting sheet

Just a few suggestions/comments:

• Like stated before, try to take out the subjective stuff. Is there any way you can remove the whole ranking box and make it into yes/no questions to avoid too much judgement made by the scouts?
• Have you considered adding anything about defense?
• I like the portion about the lane entry

Good Luck!