Car Nack Predicts 2011-6

[Tom Line]

I feel very sorry for the refs. As I said in a thread at the beginning of the season, wouldn't it be horrible if the win on Einstein comes down to someone who deploys .5 seconds early and doesn't get called on it?

Some method should have been made to do this automatically - perhaps a pressure plate that the minibot had to depress (much like the one at the top of the tower), Laser switches around the mast, something. The game idea is phenomenal, but the implementation is tough on those volunteers. A camera looking down from each match running labview vision detecting if someone breaks the white circle might have worked as well.

Gracious professionalism will be absolutely crucial this year.

[artdutra04]

Originally Posted by Tom Line

I feel very sorry for the refs. As I said in a thread at the beginning of the season, wouldn't it be horrible if the win on Einstein comes down to someone who deploys .5 seconds early and doesn't get called on it?

Some method should have been made to do this automatically - perhaps a pressure plate that the minibot had to depress (much like the one at the top of the tower), Laser switches around the mast, something. The game idea is phenomenal, but the implementation is tough on those volunteers. A camera looking down from each match running labview vision detecting if someone breaks the white circle might have worked as well.

Gracious professionalism will be absolutely crucial this year.

The Minibot should have first hit a plate on the base of the tower, then hit the plate at the top of the pole.

Then we could have called them Mortar-bots.

[pfreivald]

Originally Posted by OZ_341

So unless you install a light curtain around the base of every pole

And that won't work anyway, because HOSTBOTS are allowed to break the plane of the tower (and even contact the pole) before DEPLOYMENT -- it's only minibots that can't.

I know that we plan on being in position a few seconds early, with our deployment mechanism touching the pole and ready to fire the minibot!

[DonRotolo]

Originally Posted by pfreivald

I know that we plan on being in position a few seconds early, with our deployment mechanism touching the pole and ready to fire the minibot!

We are planning on a similar tactic.

[Cyberphil]

I absolutely agree with this.

It would be nice if there was some kind of vertical sensor during the last 15 seconds to see when they cross that line, but that would require a LOT more programming, money, and probably something else I am overseeing.

Or like Art was saying, plates on the bottom that first had to be engaged before the minibot could be deployed.

I know for a fact our team is going to be at the pole somewhere around the 15-20 second mark to get ready depending if we need to line up or not (which depends on weight).

To me, it is kind of set up to fail: Such a vital part of the game that requires the bots to be deployed at a very precise time with humans determining whether the teams deployed early or on time just seems sketchy to me.

[waialua359]

Originally Posted by thefro526

I foresee a lot of teams in earlier regionals, if not in all of them, forgoing mini-bot deployment unless it's absolutely necessary to win.

This!

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by thefro526

I foresee a lot of teams in earlier regionals, if not in all of them, forgoing mini-bot deployment unless it's absolutely necessary to win.

But qualification matches aren't just about wins, losses and seeding postion. It's also trying to show other teams what you can do. Like a job interview. You're tryting to show the top teams at the competition that they need you more than they need air. A good minibot might be the one thing that seals the deal for them picking you. If they see you have a minibot and you're not using it they're going to assume it either doesn't work or you don't know how to use it.
I say if you got it you may as well flaunt it. Even if you have to release it a second later just to be safe.

[pfreivald]

Indeed. A minibot reaching the top last is still ten points, which could easily swing a game one way or the other.

[MarcD79]

There was only one complete minibot deployment at Suffield Shakedown & it was team 175, Buzz Robotics. Judging by what I saw yesterday, the scores from the tubes were not extreme. That minibot deployment will make or break the game.