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Re: Can we use globe motors this year?

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Personally I would be fine with the BB motor combination, if there was another supplier for the motors than Banebots. We got one of each in the kit but no one's going to use 1 BB motor. Everyone's going to use the 775s or 550s depending on application, with the others used sparingly. I would have liked 2 RS-775s and 2 RS-550s out of the box.
Ordering the motors is easy. It's their gearbox lead time that gets you.

The best solution would be to introduce some free-market competition, like if AndyMark were to introduce a COTS adapter plate to mount the 540/550 or 775 on one of their planetary gearboxes, for the teams that don't have easy access to a machine shop to make/modify their own.
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Re: Can we use globe motors this year?

It's all part of the challenge. Every year it's "here's your energy converting devices, use them the best way possible." It doesn't matter if it because of vendor donations or GDC decisions, it is what it is.

We all have favorite motors but when we loose them we are taken out of comfort zone, that is a good thing.

Some day we may all loose our beloved CIM's too, maybe next year, who knows.

But it will all be part of the challenge that is FRC.
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Re: Can we use globe motors this year?

The precedent has already been set? How is this applicable?

An argument from precedent is a claim that: "We should not do ***** because future people might misuse the precedent of doing ***** for the first time in order to justify doing something else."

In the case of the motors, ***** has already been done.

annnndddd......

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Re: Can we use globe motors this year?

I personally like the choice of motors in the kit.
It is a good balance and the BB motors allow quite abit of versatility.

The only change I would have made is to allow 2 FP motors instead of one.

For years we have had to struggle to find spare or replacement motors for a bunch of reasons... go out and try to buy a van door motor... or at least the right one...

For many years you couldn't get the correct FP motors either.

Now, we have a source of almost unlimited spares and replacements (CIMS and BANEBOTS)
We can get spares and play around in the offseason with different configurations.

As far as gearboxes... we are using the AM planetary gearboxes with the 550's ... and they work fine... I know other teams are using the 775's with the AM planetary.

so OK the AM gearbox is a little pricey at nearly 3 times what the CIMULATOR sells for... but it will work...

Back when I started we got no gearboxes...then we got a plastic sort of one for Stack-Attack...

Everyone should stop complaining... we have a great selection...

Building a robot is supposed to be a tough challenge... you really want to have bolt-on solutions? I greatly appreciate what AndyMark does and also Banebots... but it wasn't that long ago that neither existed... In some ways I think that was better...

Do some engineering...
improvise, adapt, overcome...

remember surrender is not in our creed!

that is all
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